BTH will appreciate the irony of this, given some of the things he's witnessed whilst riding with me in the past... :-) Anyway...after five years of riding, and a number of close shaves at speed, I finally fell off the bike for the first time...in my backyard at about 5kph! :-S I usually park on a bit of concrete behind the house, that requires a sharpish turn-in to get on to. There is also a fair bit of gravel/grass...anyway, I came home, turned the corner, and then thought that perhaps it would be a good idea to hit the kill switch to stop the engine running whilst on its side. I was surprised at just how bloody quick it all happened, given the incredibly low speed. Climbing out from under the bike was a bit of fun (not as much fun as trying to pick the bloody thing up!), but the only damage was a 2-inch crack to the fairing near the right indicator, and some minor scratches to the lower fairing on the same side. I guess it just goes to show that you can't ever be too careful...even at 5kph in your own goddam backyard. :-) ah well, it's all good as long as someone gets a laugh out of it, I suppose. Damien GPX250 -> CBR600 -> F650/R1200GS (when the $$$ are there!)