Eliminator 250

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by phar_que_2, Aug 7, 2003.

  1. phar_que_2

    phar_que_2 Guest

    Hi Just got my L's on the weekend and I am looking at buying a
    second-hand eliminator. Just had a couple of questions for anyone who
    may have owned one:

    Anything particularly bad about these (aside from the fact they're a
    250...).

    A dealer told me they get a govenor put in the engine, which hinders
    their performance when they are shipped to Oz, but this can be removed
    - no-one else I've spoken to has ever heard of this.

    I'm commuting about 105 Kms a day in a 60 zone, and I want to be
    comfortable, any comments.
     
    phar_que_2, Aug 7, 2003
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    Mike.S Guest

    I have a feeling im gonna get mentioned in this at some point.

    Mike.S
     
    Mike.S, Aug 7, 2003
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  3. phar_que_2

    Mike.S Guest

    On the contrary, that is if its an old Eliminator 250. The newer ones (circa 1997 onwards, give or take a yr)
    use a V engine of some heritage i know not. not the gpx/zzr250 of yesteyear.



    Mike.S
     
    Mike.S, Aug 7, 2003
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  4. phar_que_2

    JP Guest

    I have a 2003 Eliminator (VN250), which I bought brand new and I thoroughly
    enjoy riding it.

    The bike has reasonable pick-up, but obviously a pretty low top speed. Mine
    has 180 on the clock, but I've only ever had it up to 130 - and with me on
    it, that's no mean feat. Might reach 180 in freefall.

    It's pretty responsive in the 90 - 110 range, which is good on the freeway,
    and you should have no trouble in a 60 zone other than drifting over the
    speed limit, which I find myself doing a bit.

    It handles pretty well for a cruiser, although I don't have much to compare
    it to, other than the CB250 I used at my learner course. I used the
    Eliminator for my provisional licence course, and despite it being much
    heavier, having a much longer wheelbase and lower road clearance than the
    bikes provided to the other guys, I breezed through it, and got better
    results than most of the group.

    I commute about 80 Km per day through inner Melbourne suburbia and SE
    freeway and have never felt uncomfortable. After about 180km continuous
    cruising, my backside gets a bit sore, but that's probably more to do with
    me being a fat bastard.

    My only complaint is that the footpegs are not as far forward as I would
    have liked and on long rides, my legs cramp up a bit, but nothing a quick
    walk at the next servo hasn't been able to fix. That, and the horn sounds
    really poxy.

    I haven't heard of the governor of which you speak, and haven't had any
    performance issues. It performs better than I had expected for a big bike
    with a little engine under a fat bastard.

    HTH

    JP
    2003 VN250 (stolen & found) --> 2003 FLSTFI (soon)
     
    JP, Aug 7, 2003
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    BT Humble Guest

    The older ones had the GPX/z motor, but the current models (I don't
    know when they came in) have a V-twin in a pretty big frame. They
    *look* very nice, but that's the limit of my knowledge of them.

    As for what they're like to ride, I think MikeS, Tara and Dr
    Blaxsliminator might be better sources? ;-)


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, Aug 7, 2003
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    sharkey Guest

    Fairy Nuff. So, Mr. Original Poster, is it a parallel twin
    one or a V-twin one?

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, Aug 7, 2003
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  7. phar_que_2

    Mike.S Guest

    Nice to ride, tracks dead straight, takes corners rather nicely (for my inexperienced self)
    no real quirks. biggest danger in doing things wrong is yourself imho.

    Short gear changes in acceleration, good for around-the-city commuting, but due to this
    would prove a tad of a pain in anything longer than a putty rd trip or maybe even a trip
    to canberra[1]. Other than that they are a nice bit of kit, very compact, and will treat you
    well if you treat it well.. Might explain my $700 engine repair quote i got today for the
    aftermath of totally confusing the timing from what i was told to reading the manual.

    I like my bike, will prolly stay on it a while as the commute factor is enough to keep
    her aside from the fact shes fun riding.

    [1] if anything resembling a hill or headwind is involved.


    Mike.S
     
    Mike.S, Aug 8, 2003
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    Andrew Wolf Guest

    The new Eliminators are very similar to the Honda V25/VT250C which is
    very comfortable over longer rides (I rode my VT250C for a day ride
    through the national park and then after coming home, hopped back on
    it and rode to Canberra, and back the next day)

    It will all come down to how comfortable _YOU_ feel on the bike. Sit
    on a few models of various brands (same style) and various model
    types. Also, you may want to look at bikes like the Yamaha XVS 650
    which is now learner legal in NSW (not sure where you are). I test
    rode one after my P's and it felt the same as my 250, just with less
    gear changes.

    Hope this helps

    Andrew

    VT250C -> M620ie Dark
     
    Andrew Wolf, Aug 9, 2003
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  9. phar_que_2

    **Bamf** Guest

    I like my baby (1995 EL250 - older style).

    She has quite a bit of kick for a cruiser, kicks the arse out of a CB (I got 130 up hill where the CB was
    stuggling at 110). Once you have been riding for a little while they will start to feel very light. My only
    comment would be, if you think you might like to ride something sporty (is GSXR type) afterwards, perhaps
    consider something else. I rode a virago first day of my l's and the EL on the second and then bought one and
    have been riding it for 2 and a half years. I recently rode a ZZR250 and thought I was gonna die, cos the EL
    has a very LOW center of gravity. But then I rode a monster and that was fine. Having said all that I have
    been told the ZZR is quite top heavy.

    But the actual bike is great to ride. And allow 5 hours when you want to change the sprockets cos you have to
    remove the entire exhaust system. (Not that hard, just time consuming).

    Tara
     
    **Bamf**, Aug 10, 2003
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  10. phar_que_2

    BT Humble Guest

    True, it wasn't that hard for *you*! ;-)


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, Aug 11, 2003
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    sharkey Guest

    Never mind BT, it's a perfectly normal symptom of old age.
    There's probably nothing to worry about.

    -----sharks
    --
    Nick 'Sharkey' Moore <> <http://zoic.org/sharkey>
    "As she contemplated the setting sun, its dying rays casting the last of
    their brilliant purple light on the red-gold waters of the lake, Debbie
    realized that she should never again buy her sunglasses from a guy parked
    by the side of the road." -- Malinda Lingwall, Bulwer-Lytton Contest 2003.
     
    sharkey, Aug 11, 2003
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  12. But if you _are_ worried, I've got about 4000 buts of spam
    offering to help...

    ;-)

    big
     
    Iain Chalmers, Aug 11, 2003
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    Iain Chalmers wrote in message ...
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    Buts?!!? I thought it was made outta' snouts and ears.....

    [She came in through the bathroom window....]
    CockerDoodle
     
    Knobdoodle, Aug 11, 2003
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