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but it /can/ use them. Yes, you know and I know that you're not going
to chuck money at them to enable useful usage, but your devide doesn't.

How exactly would you like your device to make the decision?

 

There should be an app for that.

 

doetnietcomputeren took a blunt brush and painted...

"ping", "no answer", "lets use cellular".

Seems simple enough to me.

There's absolutely nothing stopping the device form then on trying to use the
WiFi link every couple of seconds or so to see if it's come to life yet, and
if it has, divert any new sessions through WiFi.

 

Except that on connecting, the device received data from the AP, in the
form of 'give us your credit card'.

So what would you have your device pinging?

and wipe out all that lovely battery life you have at the same time.

 

How about your mailserver? And a telnet on the relevant port would be
ample IWHT. Unless, of course, the portal is going to respond on all the
ports and IP's which it might, but that would be a bit naughty IMHO.

Why? It would only try when actually accessing the 'net, then you're
really not going to increase battery usage that much.


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So if your mail server is down and not responding, your portable device
drops off the perfectly good wifi connection and drops back to 3G or
even GPRS. Nice.

Perhaps, although I would think being connected by one type of medium
and constantly searching for another might cause more drain than
necessary, but having reflected, that probably happens already if
you're using anything other than WiFi.

 

Yep. Fair call. I was assuming this was a mail only connection, simply
cos if you were browsing, you'd get portal page?

IWHTS, but wibble flip do.


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Hey, I don't have a problem with the way it works out of the box. It's
you and Frag that made objections.

 

Well I have an issue with the way my phone behaves. Frag came up with a
potential solution, which seems to be to be a fair compromise.


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doetnietcomputeren took a blunt brush and painted...

A ping is certainly not the same as a diverted HTTP request. IWHT that the
device will intercept any port 80 requests to any IP to its "pay" page, but I
wouldn't have thought they would divert requests to any port. What is it
going to do, intercept port 110 and send you an email asking you to pay?

Any request not using port 80. The iPhone 2G managed to do it perfectly well
so it is obviously possible.

If you absolutely need to know, get a 2G iPhone and sniff its WiFi network
traffic.

Of course, that's why the 2G iPhone has a much worse battery life than the 3G
/ 3GS. Oh, hang on, it doesn't!

 

Catman took a blunt brush and painted...

As I said, it's not a "potential" solution, it (in one form or another) is
(or was) a solution.

Why Apple chose to do it differently, wibble flip, but the end result is
slightly annoying.

 

frag wibbled forthrightly:

Erm, I thought that was one of the things Apple changed with the 3GS. A
better battery.

 

Is it still sealed inside the iPhone?

I remember my marketing guy in a meeting saying "oh, my iPhone is hung"
"reset it" "there is no reset" "remove the battery" "it can't be open"... so
he had to wait until the battery run dry... 3 or 4 days on a shite olde
corporate Nokia

 

Domènec wibbled forthrightly:

It is. Apparently it was one of the arguements that Motorola used in
their recent US marketing campaign with the Milestone against the
iPhone.

My iPhone has hung once. IIRC you need to press the power button with
the main button until a menu pops up to reset, etc. Keep the button
pressed and it will eventually power off.

 

Cab took a blunt brush and painted...

Yeah right. I'm finding it slightly worse, but the 3GS does a lot more.

The battery has a higher capacity IIRC, but phone does more so about the same
life.

 

Cab took a blunt brush and painted...

*Ding* Press and hold both buttons for about 10 seconds and it'll do a hard
reset.

Press and hold both until it resets and then let go of power (or home, can't
remember which) and hold the other one and about 30 secs later it'll go into
recovery mode and you can use iTunes to download new firmware - rescues most
bricked phones.

 

frag wibbled forthrightly:

I think the difference is that you're probably always on 3G networks
which do have an effect on the battery. If you switch it off then your
battery will last considerably longer than a 2G iPhone.

 

He should have read the manual. There is a hard-reset on an iPhone.

 

To be honest, a few weeks ago I used him as a sample of average user to see
whether the installation steps of some software were clear and... well, the
results showed his technical reading is not good. OTOH, he is brilliant at
some other things that bring us revenue.

 

Cab took a blunt brush and painted...

It is off.

Nope. About the same. 4 days in both cases. Maybe the 3GS is *slightly* less.

Both had WiFi on all the time, BT off.