Electrickery advise needed

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Andy Bonwick, Oct 12, 2009.

  1. Andy Bonwick

    Hog Guest

    Oh hold on, why not call these guys
    www.carel.co.uk
    I'm in the wrong time zone
    An order of (say) 8 to allow for spares and 4 users.

    Seems like a doddle.
     
    Hog, Oct 13, 2009
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  2. muddy cat was thinking very hard :
    An old (or new if they still sell them) open electric fire element. Put
    a jubilee clip round it, with a wire to act as a tap - to adjust the
    resistance to what you need.
     
    Harry Bloomfield, Oct 13, 2009
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  3. Andy Bonwick

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Then book the ferry. I'm going to make a final decision on which one
    I'm using and then post it for a week before booking. My input
    regarding ferries stops there.
    How much?
    Shame I've got 3 different Shoei crash helmets.
    They're not going to be cheap or easy to problem solve if things get
    damaged.
    Not as easy as wiring up your existing visor which is what I've nearly
    finished doing. I'll be chucking about 18 Watts of heat through the
    coil and that should comfortably remove any ice as it forms without
    melting the visor.

    **** knows what'll happen anywhere else but the visor will be ok.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Oct 13, 2009
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  4. Andy Bonwick

    Lozzo Guest

    All Arai road visors have a compound curve on them. You need to use the
    race visors, which are specially made with a curve in one direction
    only to allow the use of tear-offs.
     
    Lozzo, Oct 13, 2009
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  5. Andy Bonwick

    geoff Guest

    Nichrome doesn't solder very well with normal solder, you might have to
    use acid core solder

    .... and if it were to get a bit hotter than you're after, of course, you
    shouldn't anyway, for the obvious reason

    best option is to crimp or trap it in-between washers
     
    geoff, Oct 13, 2009
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  6. Andy Bonwick

    Champ Guest

    Wot he said.
     
    Champ, Oct 13, 2009
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  7. Andy Bonwick

    CT Guest

    Unlike you, I'll never race, but if I get a race visor instead of a
    road one, I'll be faster on the road[1] *and* look cooler! Excellent...

    [1] Not difficult, I know.
     
    CT, Oct 14, 2009
    #47
  8. Andy Bonwick

    Hog Guest

    <points up there>
    As I said in the first line!

    I only buy the flat ones and this is because you can more easily put a fog
    city or transition insert on the thing.
     
    Hog, Oct 14, 2009
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  9. Andy Bonwick

    Hog Guest

    Curiously it is what I always got so didn't give it a second thought.
    Possibly an RX7RR doesn't have a convex visor option.
    Of course I ordered them from <braces> The Visor Shop
    <thinks>
    but collected in person.
     
    Hog, Oct 14, 2009
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  10. Andy Bonwick

    zymurgy Guest

    You great shirking ****.

    I'm coming over for a tinnie tomorrow night ;-)

    Paul
     
    zymurgy, Oct 14, 2009
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  11. Andy Bonwick

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Are you?

    Make sure you phone first but we should be in all evening. If you want
    to drink more than a sensible amount for driving home I'll put a tent
    up in the garden, I think we've still got one of your tents lying
    around somewhere.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Oct 14, 2009
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  12. Andy Bonwick

    zymurgy Guest

    ****. Relegated to the garden ! :/

    Yea, i'll give you a shout tomorrow ..

    Cheers,

    Paul
     
    zymurgy, Oct 15, 2009
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  13. Andy Bonwick

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Ok, we'll let you sleep on the conservatory floor if it's raining.
    Righto.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Oct 15, 2009
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  14. Andy Bonwick

    ian field Guest

    Its quite unlikely you'll easily get hold of a potentiometer that can handle
    the current for a resistance wire visor de-icer, if you do its going to
    waste an awful lot of power on any setting other than zero resistance.

    The modern way of controlling current is "Pulse Width Modulation" (PWM). Its
    not a black art and there are some web sites with very detailed
    illustrations of how to put one together.

    One of the simplest you can find is based on the LM/SE/NE555 timer chip
    (multiple choice prefix letters from many manufacturers). Its literally half
    a dozen components including the chip, a power MOSFET (transistor), a couple
    of diodes and resistors and a potentiometer.
     
    ian field, Oct 23, 2009
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  15. Andy Bonwick

    ian field Guest


    The size, weight and cost of the massive transistor + heatsink needed to
    control that much current in linear mode without burning out, would far
    outweigh the tiny little chip and half dozen tiny components to make a PWM
    regulator that might not need any heatsink at all.

    The PWM could be squeezed onto a scrap of stripboard not much bigger than an
    inch square, the chip should be less than 50p and the transistor well under
    £2.

    The linear version would probably need several transistors in parallel (to
    save the cost of a big and fucking expensive one) and would be at least as
    big as a rectifier/regulator pack.
     
    ian field, Oct 23, 2009
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  16. Andy Bonwick

    boots Guest

    Crikey, 555 timers still going. I was using those to make simple
    project before the sprogs and now they're old enough to buy me beer.
     
    boots, Oct 23, 2009
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  17. Andy Bonwick

    frag Guest

    2mm square surface mount
    Lol, and waste all that power as heat from the transistors? Get with it
    grandad, PWM isn't hard to understand, its just switching it off and on very
    fast.
     
    frag, Oct 24, 2009
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  18. Andy Bonwick

    Guest Guest

    I got a bag of em somewhere, PWM is a simple project that will fit in a
    match box. Maplin even sell a little kit.
    Although I would just cut the resistance wire to the correct length then it
    would be fine. When I made heated grips from stainless mig wire the only
    oddity I did was have a parallel to series switch so I could have 2 setting.
    I also used cheep plumbers tape 'PTFE' to bind as its heat proof, so it
    didn't melt my little pinky's
     
    Guest, Oct 24, 2009
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  19. Andy Bonwick

    Alex Ferrier Guest

    Heh, remember designing and building simple ATE rigs using those,
    logic gates and LM741 op amps.

    <thinks> Shit! that was 25 years ago.
     
    Alex Ferrier, Oct 24, 2009
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  20. Andy Bonwick

    ian field Guest

    There's various versions of CMOS types that will run to about 2MHz, very low
    current and no switching spikes on the supply rail now.

    The original bipolar transistor 555 is still readily available and dirt
    cheap.
     
    ian field, Oct 24, 2009
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