Effing Ada

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by SP, Mar 17, 2005.

  1. SP

    SP Guest

    I went into the garage earlier this evening to get some rubber gloves
    and noticed that the bike was stood amazingly upright. A quick
    look-see at the tyres determined a rather flat rear tyre. So flat, it
    was completely devoid of air. [1]

    Arse.

    Given that the tyre looks as though it only has about 1k left in it, if
    it is anything more than a slow puncture and I need to get it replaced
    tomorrow, I can't decide whether to go for my usual fave tyre
    (Bridgestone, of course) or try something else. At this point in time
    'something else' that compares well with the Bridgestone but is cheaper
    could well influence my decision.

    I was hoping to replace the tyres as a pair this year, but that's not
    likely to happen at this point in time. Bah.

    [1] Having had the lower shock put on the bike, if I hadn't had the
    sidestand lowered as well I would've been faced with the bike on it's
    r/h side instead. [2]

    [2] Yes, I know the bike should be on it's centrestand really, but as
    the bike has been lowered it's bloody difficult to do it, so I didn't
    bother.

    --
    Lesley
    CBR600FW
    SBS#11 (with oak-leaf cluster)
    BOTAFOT#101A UKRMHRC#12
    BONY#54P BOB#18
    Real burds don't take hormones, they rage naturally
     
    SP, Mar 17, 2005
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    Monz Guest

    8< tales of woe

    Just put a BT014 rear on mine yesterday and scrubbed it in today, not had
    the chance to give it any serious beans yet but it seems to warm up pretty
    quickly. £120 fitted for a 190 section so your size may be cheaper
     
    Monz, Mar 17, 2005
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  3. SP

    SP Guest

    I'm on a 160/60, so hopefully. I'll pick up the MCN on the way into
    work this evening and see if there are any deals on anywhere.

    --
    Lesley
    CBR600FW
    SBS#11 (with oak-leaf cluster)
    BOTAFOT#101A UKRMHRC#12
    BONY#54P BOB#18
    Real burds don't take hormones, they rage naturally
     
    SP, Mar 17, 2005
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  4. I've got a similar dilemma. I'm wanting to get a pair of tyres on ASAP
    and the last few pairs I've had have been Azaro 3s and was thinking
    about trying something else but shelling out nearly £200 for something I
    don't get on with is going to be an expensive mistake.
    www.fwr.co.uk are doing some amazing deals. I phoned up today and the
    ones advertised on the web (Azaro 3s) for £159 a pair are down to £129
    according to the bloke on the phone - I'm going to get some fitted. I
    was toying with trying some others but at that price I'll stick with
    what I know.
     
    Whinging Courier, Mar 17, 2005
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    Greybeard Guest

    You know, I had to have an ickle laff to myself here.

    Many years ago, if you so much as mentioned Bridgestone tyres you would be
    lynched. They were the most lethal of round black things that ever adorned a
    motorcycle.
    Most jap stuff that came in had them on, and most people used to be really
    happy when the time came to change them in favour of a Dunlop TT100 or Avon
    Roadrunner, they were your choices mate!!
    tyres were so farking expensive that you couldn't afford to just oik the ol'
    bridgstone concrete chunk off in favour of something better. You had to do
    you 3K miles or so and live with it. Take it steady, real steady and you
    might be lucky and make it to the end of the carcass and then soul search to
    find the 60 odd quid for a RR or TT100. Now bearing in mind that 30 years or
    so ago, 60 quid was a fecking lot of wonga!

    I personally think that bike tyres are a farking fortune now, compared to
    car tyres. Admitted the technology of construction has a large part to play,
    and when considered against RR, TT100 and the old favourite the Avon Speed
    master ( that forgot about cornering!) we have some fan-bloody-tastic boots
    nowadays. But, now here is the 5K$ question, do they really warrant the
    extortionate price? I'm not passing judgement here, just asking a question.
    Being a "mature!!" rider that has seen both side of the coin, and has over
    30 years on 2 wheels behind him, and has seen the advent of the modern tyre
    over the old crap, I would like to hear other opinions.
     
    Greybeard, Mar 17, 2005
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    Lozzo Guest

    Greybeard says...
    You can still buy a pair of decent sticky tyres for an old style 250ish
    sized bike[1] for about 70 quid. When you compare incomes from 30 years
    ago to what the same person would earn now, 160 quid for a pair of
    sticky tyres for a Gixxer thou is dirt cheap and they work, unlike their
    forerunners.

    [1] Maxxis Barracudas for a Superdream/CB250RS/RD250/350LC/400 Four
     
    Lozzo, Mar 17, 2005
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    'Hog Guest

    I wrecked a cage rear on Sat, only 2500 on it (1). Took it into the
    dealer full of instant foam, braced for the £250 hit. Company phones me
    back, Sir you've forgotten you bought tyre insurance (£75) with the car
    it's just a £10 excess. Wahhey, I had a nice bottle of Soave.

    Wonder if they would notice 2 rear punctures every 10k

    (1) these run flat jobs are good, 80ish and didn't really notice until I
    went over a bump.

    'Hog
     
    'Hog, Mar 17, 2005
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  8. http://www.motorbike-tyres.com/ are doing some brill deals at the mo
    (and less expensive than FWR). pair of 010s for £139, delivered next
    day for £6.

    I ordered 9 yesterday and they tried to deliver them today.

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    Adrienne M Bonwick, Mar 17, 2005
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  9. They were crap, along with Japanese Dunlops, Nittos, Cheng Shins and the
    rest.

    Erm, I remember paying 60 quid a *pair* for TT100s and the like, so I
    dunno who was overcharging you.....
    It does. Motorcycle tyres are *still* very labour-intensive to make,
    compared with car tyres. And yes, they wear out fast, but if you
    consider any half-decent Jap sports bike puts 100bhp through a very
    small contact patch, they do quite well.

    I mean, that would be equivalent to a car putting 200bhp through each
    back tyre, and car tyres for that sort of car don't last long either -
    and they have much bigger contact patches.

    Yes, I think they do.
    Well, see above. I've 29 years on bikes now and I've experienced the
    crap tyres of the past. Modern rubber is just amazing, and for that sort
    of performance, feedback and (not least) the safety factor, it's a price
    worth paying IMHO.

    Also, in real terms, a modern 190 section superbike tyre isn't much
    pricier than an old 4.25 section Roadrunner was in 1976.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Mar 17, 2005
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    Monz Guest

    result :)
     
    Monz, Mar 17, 2005
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    Greybeard Guest

    Without doubt
    Maybe my memory is a little clouded now, to many pork pies and guiness! ;o)
    But I do remember going to garrat tyres? in wandsworth to buy a pair of
    regrade TT100's because they were a little cheaper and having no change from
    100 sovs including wheels off and fitting!
    Good point, well argued. I dmust admit I don't know of the technologies
    involved here, but taking penny to the pound I'm sure things are better now.
    Most certainly the bit of rubber, prolly half a credit card in size, under
    my arse, is doing a damned site better job of keeping me going in the
    direction I really wanna go, than the lump of concrete did 20 odd ears ago.
    No argument here, but it's still a shock to get a bill of 120 plus sovs to
    reshod half the beast, when you can shod the whole cage for that.!
    Very true. And I feel the biggest improvement on bike tyres now is the grip
    in the wet.
    It scared the bejeezus out of me in the old days when you had to lean the
    bike over > than 15 degrees coz you misjudges a corner. Prayers were offered
    up on many occasion that you hope to make it out the otherside in the
    upright position! ;o)
     
    Greybeard, Mar 18, 2005
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  12. SP

    SP Guest

    That's brill Adie, cheers. And the Bridgestones at a decent price,
    too. I'll see how the tyre is tomorrow, with any luck it's only a slow
    puncture in which case I can order a pair when I get paid next week.
    If not, I'll have to order just the rear, which is a bit of a PITA.

    --
    Lesley
    CBR600FW
    SBS#11 (with oak-leaf cluster)
    BOTAFOT#101A UKRMHRC#12
    BONY#54P BOB#18
    Real burds don't take hormones, they rage naturally
     
    SP, Mar 18, 2005
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  13. That's assuming you managed to slow down in the rain in the first place,
    because the effing discs didn't work in the wet.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Mar 18, 2005
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  14. SP

    Greybeard Guest

    Forgot about that bit, but so very true ;)
     
    Greybeard, Mar 18, 2005
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    dwb Guest

    9 pairs?

    Geez - are you opening a dealership or planning a very busy Summer?
     
    dwb, Mar 18, 2005
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    Champ Guest

    3 'sets' (where a 'set' is two rears and a front)
    Elsewhere she explains why. Adie and Andy have a lot of bikes now.
     
    Champ, Mar 18, 2005
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    'Hog Guest

    They are carrying more weight of course, although the kg/sq.cm *might*
    not be that much higher, but yeah £500 a pair for 10k miles would be
    about right. They can be completely trashed in a track day too.

    'Hog
     
    'Hog, Mar 18, 2005
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  18. SP

    'Hog Guest

    Shirly you can get sintered pads in a HH stylee for them now?

    'Hog
     
    'Hog, Mar 18, 2005
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    dwb Guest

    But only two riders? :)
     
    dwb, Mar 18, 2005
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    TimP Guest


    Don't they ruin the ride though? I went in a mate's 1-series [1] the
    other day, and the ride quality weren't too good - I understood it was
    down to the run-flats.


    On another note, is there such a thing as a nice Soave? I've not found
    one, they all seem a bit flavourless to me. Went to a tasting of some
    fantastic Barolo and Barbarescos last night if you're into red - by
    Bruno Giacosa. Way out of my price range though at £585 for 6 =8-0.


    TimP


    [1] Crap choice of car anyway IMO
     
    TimP, Mar 18, 2005
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