Edible hats at the ready guys...

That's right, I'm not a keen spanner wielder. That's not to say I
*can't* (I built a kitcar when I was 15) but I see no joy in it. So
that takes care of my "**** that" comment.

My "bollocks" comment you haven't addressed. Show me the developed Brit
Iron that'll keep up with Champ on his Gixer, Bonwick on his 9R, or
Ferrier on his RGS.

 

sweller <> spouted the following in

I didn't ever say they could.

We all know the sad story of the mismanagement of the Brit bike industry,
and I agree with you 100%. I never disputed that the gen pub found Jappers
more reliable and desirable 'out of the box'. But I still stand by what I
said about the superiority of '70's Brit frame handling, and if you are
able to do the engineering, it turns out that the engines are well designed
too.

I'm thinking of having the best of both worlds. I've been offered a Rickman
chassis which is lugged up to take a GSX1100 motor...


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Triumph Daytona?

 

Ginge <> spouted the following in

Clean your glasses and reread the original post.



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Lol!

There is some fun to be had in seeing off people on fast new bikes with
an old street sleeper.

Not that I'm saying a commando could match a well ridden new superbike
on the fast roads, but in the right circumstances, a Commando is a great
machine to swing about on. My mate Dales Norton 650ss is a remarkably
quick and reliable bike too...

For real world riding, away from the roads with GATSO's on, e.g.the
twisty back lanes of england, a smaller, lighter, torquey brit bike with
a nice short wheelbase can have the advantage over a wide engined over
powered, over braked rice burning rocket bike. One of them being that
they seem to survive slides and minor offs a *lot* better than Jappolas.

This is definitely a factor in rider attitude IME.

Don't forget I own an RGS too, I'm not living in the past, it's just
that I have an appreciation for it.

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LOL!

I remember ones for Ford:
Fix Or Repair Daily, and Found On Road, Dead.

Lotus:
Loads Of Trouble, Usually Serious

and I'm sure someone had a FIAT one. And that *is* legit... Fabricca
Italiano Automobili Torino (OWTTE)

 

This is your problem in UKRM. You make a sweeping statement, and then
people tell you talking bollocks, and then you refine what you said.
And you still leave enough bollocks in to keep the argument going.

You said in Message-ID: <[email protected]>

My defense is, that brit iron is *worth* making into something special.
You really grow to love you fave bike, and continue to develop it over
the years to keep up with the fast boys on the shiny new jappers. "

I'm sure it is. So fucking what? So are loads of bikes.

I don't care.

*sigh* If there's one thing I hate, it's people talking about the "real
world"; why anyone thinks that their world is any more real than anyone
else's I don't know.

Not all Japanese bikes are wide engined, over powered, over braked
rocket bikes. Not all British bikes are light, torquey with short
wheelbases.

I've never heard over braked as a criticism before.

And I like to see even a "well-sorted" Commando try to keep up with
Veggie Dave on a motard on the twisty back lanes of England.

Except you can't get the fucking parts.

And seriously, I crashed my Bandit last year, and it got away very
lightly.

Why? It was shit, that's why we moved on.

 

Y'know, I don't feel like that at all. A bike's a bike. Some I like
more than others, but I don't really get attached to them. I spent
thousands of pounds, and thousands of hours, building my Harris turbo,
but when it's usefulness was passed, I had no problem selling it.

 

Dass notta promble, issa art of wibble innit ;-)

Anyway, what sweeping statement? Seeing off someone on a fast new bike
with an old bike isn't an everday occurence, and can't be done every
time, but when it clicks, and you do a nice manouvre, it's fun.

True, true.

Horses for courses, on bumpy, gravelly roads, overly powerful brakes can
make staying just this side of locking up more difficult IME

Bet Veggie's motard aint gonna keep up on the straights. This is the
whole point of good all rounder motorcycles, of which a nicely screwwed
together commando is a prime example.

Wrong. You can get the parts more easily than for a lot of jappers.
Cheaper too.

Sweeping statement Ben.

Speak for your own past, I'll speak for mine. ok?

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No. Sorry Ben.

 

I'm not actually speaking for myself there. I don't have the access to
machinery and materials that I used to, and have too many other
interests in life to give the level of dedication required to run a
really high performing old bike. I'm defending the choice of friends
such as Wolfgang and Dale because they're not here to speak for
themselves.

I'm quite excited at the prospect of taking on a Rickman/GSX1100 as a
long term project, though I might make up some engine plates for
something a bit narrower in the engine dept. Anyone got an interesting
jap chain drive V twin (or 'parallel V') out of a crashed bike for sale
cheep?


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Don't be sorry. I'm *glad*.

 

Honda Dullvilles? Yam TDMs? Do the current 'dogs' sell in any numbers?


frag

 

Or maybe you're wrong about bikes being "over braked".

Not long enough for a Commando to leave a motard for dead.

 

Champ wrote

Try

www.hatsofmeat.com

HTH

Paul.

 

I think all modern jap four cylinder bikes have much narrower engines
than a big brit twin (commando, bonneville, etc). And more torque,
too.

 

Rog, with all due, I think you've come about as far as you're going to
get with this one.

I've only looked briefly into what this is all about, but it's like me
saying "you can get 125 brake out of an SV".

You can, but you need to bore it out, do serious engine work and then
run it on methanol, as JHS racing did. If you're prepared to tune the
nuts off it then the sky's the limit. The jhs special was hardly the
run every day, do everything all rounder type of bike that the orignal
SV is.

 

Champ <> spouted the following in

Whaa?!! No way. Lets compare width across cases and cylinders later.

True, but higher up the range. The commando just seems to give a nice
useful surge of power when you open the tap. But I'm being subjective
and I don't want to spoil a nice morning so I'm not going to argue





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I got an apache install page but no content?

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Was that worth it, and how long/much did it cost in comparison with just
buying a car?

I went to the american classic car show and in the car park was what
appeared to be a GT40. It must've been a replica, as any real one
would've been in the show being worth about a million, however, it
looked rather interesting - I know they're meant to be small but it was
a see-it-to-believe-it kind of small.