economy

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by jas, May 4, 2006.

  1. jas

    jas Guest

    how much do the 1100 bikes go thru in fuel compared to the 250's?
     
    jas, May 4, 2006
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    J5 Guest

    depends on what bikes

    depends on how you ride it
     
    J5, May 4, 2006
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    THE_Rego Guest

    In our family: YMMV

    150cc Scooter (4-Stroke) 4.2L/100Km - Mostly cruising @ 110km/h 2 up
    GN250 Suzuki 4.1L/100Km - Medium Throttle 110km/h cruising + City work
    Honda 900 Hornet 6.5L/100Km - Medium Throttle, some cruising 120+, Some
    squiding
     
    THE_Rego, May 4, 2006
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  4. jas

    Rod Bacon Guest

    Jasmoto, my 1400 gets 8L per 100 Km if I ride like a pussy, and 12L per
    100 Km if I go hard.

    So an average of 10 would be close.
     
    Rod Bacon, May 5, 2006
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  5. jas

    sharkey Guest

    1100 postie bikes might use less fuel that 250 gold wings.

    -----sharks (big shed)
     
    sharkey, May 5, 2006
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  6. My 1200 uses 5 litres per 100 km on the highway and 6 to 7 litres elsewhere.
     
    Stephen Calder, May 5, 2006
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  7. jas

    THE_Rego Guest

    Hmmmm...it's new right? Could still be a little tight I guess, but those
    figures seem too high to me. Maybe they set the FI to uber-rich during run
    in. Some guys on the net are reporting 5.2L/100Km for a GSX14, after all
    they are a really, really detuned oldskool air cooled engine, not exactly a
    superbike performance engine. Maybe they are just ineffecient with the
    air-cooling?
     
    THE_Rego, May 5, 2006
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    Nev.. Guest

    bullshit.

    Nev..
    '04 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., May 5, 2006
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    ck Guest

    Just done a comparo of litre sports bikes and combo riding (commute,
    transport sections, freeway, twisties) shows in and around 7 litres per 100
    km for all of them

    ck
     
    ck, May 5, 2006
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    JL Guest

    Nonsensical question. Apples and oranges.

    My 250cc 2 stroke consumes more fuel when flogged through the twisties
    than my 1 litre twin does. My 2 ton 5.3L V12 sedan uses less juice on a
    highway run than my 1.2ton 2.6L V6 did (gearing,awd vs rwd, and rev
    range). My g/f's cbr600rr gets marginally worse fuel economy than my 1L
    twin in a mix of highway and windy roads (ie Sydney to the Oxley and
    back). But when we swapped bikes for a highway stint I got better fuel
    economy on the CBR than she did on the raptor (and she's 15Kg lighter
    than me before anyone makes the smartarse comment).

    Bottom line, a sporty 250 won't cost a lot to run. A big heavy 1100
    might. A light one might not. You any the wiser ?

    JL
    (are you hammo ?)
     
    JL, May 5, 2006
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  11. The fuel cost isn't really the one you need to be most aware of for that
    comparison, as other are pointing out, its not nearly as much different
    as the difference in engine size suggests, _BUT_, ask about tire
    consumption... I get ~20,000km out of a set of sports tires on my Spada
    (250cc) @ about $300/set. I get about 20,000km out of a set of sport
    touring tires on my Monster (a low hp 750cc) @ ~$450/set. My flatmate
    once had to stop in Newcastle on the way home from Brisbane to replace
    the rear tire that was brand new when he left for Brisbane 5 days
    earlier - he'd got maybe 2000km out of it - thats on a Hayabusa though,
    which might just be the worst possible case for tires life...

    big
     
    Iain Chalmers, May 5, 2006
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    G-S Guest

    Bandit/GSXR1100/GSX1100F(G) type motors have always been fairly heavy on
    fuel if you aren't gentle with the throttle, I see no real reason why
    the GSX1400 should be any different :)

    G-S
     
    G-S, May 5, 2006
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    Rocatanski Guest

    If you need to ask you can't afford it, stick to your 250.
     
    Rocatanski, May 5, 2006
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    Rod Bacon Guest

    I've spoken t a few people since posting my figures, and mine is s
    little on the heavy side (so am I). I've just ordered a PC3 and booked
    a dyno, as I suspect the ECU map is a little off.
     
    Rod Bacon, May 5, 2006
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    "Rod Bacon" wrote
    You're going to spend what, $250 on a dyno to save $1 a week on fuel.
    Hmmmm...

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, May 5, 2006
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    Rod Bacon Guest

    Not really. I was going to do it anyway. It's just a coincidence that
    this topic started today. I have change my muffler and air filter, and
    it's not 100% right any more, even after I've had the stock ECU tweaked
    a little.
    benefits from the improved map the PC3 provides.
     
    Rod Bacon, May 5, 2006
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    THE_Rego Guest

    You cant go wrong with a PC3, please report back your experiences RE: fuel
    consumption after the fitting. Oh an HP figures too :)
     
    THE_Rego, May 5, 2006
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    JL Guest

    No they don't, they look at specific vehicle consumption within it's
    class. There are a large number of different classes within both
    capacity groups that have wildly different consumption rates because
    they have wildly different design parameters. In some the 1100 will use
    more than the 250 and vice versa - it's the wrong comparison parameter.

    So by all means question "is a 4 cylinder sporty 250 cheaper on juice
    than a 2 cylinder sporty 250" or whatever. I have not however seen a
    review that compared a Nissan patrol's consumption with that of a Barina
    (except in a tongue aside of "don't expect it to be as light on juice as
    a Barina")

    No I didn't, I pointed out the "intuitive"(1) answer was a "yeah maybe,
    but maybe not". Hence the "you any the wiser"

    JL
    (1) Intuitive to the non-cognescenti who will generally, I assume (going
    on available data), make the assumption that bigger capacity equals
    worse consumption (which may or may not be the case).
     
    JL, May 5, 2006
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    Big Bird Guest

    I filled up the blackbird the other day...$28.

    Glad I dont drive a car....
     
    Big Bird, May 5, 2006
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    atec77 Guest

    Last time I filled the jag was 2 x 55 liters .( at 117.00 a liter)
     
    atec77, May 5, 2006
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