DVLA Fees for a V5 Reg Doc

TBH, I don't even see why I should.

I've mislaid loads of logbooks, bought and sold many machines without the
correct paperwork. My laziness must cost the DVLA a fortune in
unnecessary administration.

If passing on legitimate costs and an added 'incentive' not to loose the
logbooks to the lazy bastards like me means I take a bit more care of
things I see no problem.

I'm pretty happy with the my dealings with the people at the DVLA; always
been helpful and pleasant to me.

 

Go on then. You get me a genuine blank and I'll give you £50.

I, quite frankly, don't believe you.

 

I know a V5 is not infallible.

However any proof of ownership/history/registration is better than
none at all IMO.

Still, it's your money, not mine.

 

The Home Office can use any name they want. Doesn't make it right, tho'.

Ah... The 'Citizen's Charter'. Load of old wank that Govt Agencies had to
try to attain which meant absolutely **** all in customer service terms, but
did prove that they could screw the staff and not ask for too much of a
funding rise each year...

in an attempt to

And this is utter tosh. they became an 'Executive Agency' (and thus assumed
the 'Agency' name) under the Tories.

Agencies were brought in when Major was chancellor (IIRC) as a way to make
individual business units of small parts of the Civil Service in an effort
ot make them profitable and then sell them off (qv. the Skills Training
Agency, former the MSC). It was a load of bollocks which, unfortunately but
not unsurprisingly, Blair and co have not reversed. To accuse the current
Govt of creating agencies is a revision of history worthy of the Daily Mail.

Dave

 

yeah, but if you're selling it with no papers, it costs the buyer the 19
quid.

 

I pay extra taxes to ensure that public services don't crumble any further.
To simply maintain an unacceptable 'standstill' position in the
NHS/Education/public transport etc etc etc we have to pay more taxes each
year. To reverse the problems wrought by underfunding from previous decades
requires additional spending at a highly disproportionate rate, initially,
to the return we see.

If the Govt chose to plough £5Bn into public services over 18months we'd be
cheering in the streets and we'd be pretty fucking certain that, in 10 years
time, all the new doctors, nurses and plod'd be there for us when we need
them. Instead the money's been spent on killing people thousands of miles
away and perpetuating both the woeful state of public services and the ever
increasing rise of fundametalist terrorism.....

 

No, if the buyers got any sense they deduct £19 from the price.

 

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the

That wasn't PaulC, you tosser.

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50 UKP would get you a genuine V5 along with genuine MOT and
insurance certificates. Forged blank building society cheques
also change hands for beer money. Remember that next time you are
selling.

Guess I'll just have to live with that.

riccip
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FROM THE INSURANCE TIMES (www.insurancetimes.co.uk)
January 2003

DVLA blunder stuns insurers
Fraudsters trade hundreds of lost V5 forms on black market

Industry leaders have hit out at the DVLA for publicising a
campaign on the use of vehicle log books when 2.6m are in
circulation on the black market. Fraudsters obtained the V5 forms
after the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) blundered by
losing a consignment of the forms last year.

The lost forms, which chart a vehicle's history, were part of 2.6
million documents destined for disposal by a confidential waste
company in the Birmingham area last year. The forms are now being
traded on the black market. It is understood that 600 forms have
been recovered from as far away as Malta, Kenya, Cyprus and
Sweden. A significant number have also been recovered in the
Leeds and Leicester area. This comes at a time when the DVLA has
launched a massive marketing campaign to promote the importance
of having a V5 form. This is to comply with new licensing
procedures, which come into force on 1 February and state that
anyone applying for a vehicle licence at a post office will have
to produce a V5 form or a V11 licence reminder.

A leading claims manager questioned the faith the insurance
industry could put in the V5 in such a situation. The DVLA
responded with a statement saying: "The DVLA was greatly
concerned by the recent theft of blank registration documents
from the premises of a reputable waste disposal company, to which
they had been sent for destruction." It issued a statement on 28
August last year to explain to the public and relevant
enforcement agencies of the serial numbers and all incidents of
the documents being received at DVLA. It said these cases had
been reported to the police and the National Criminal
Intelligence Service for further investigation. "This has
resulted in several arrests and quantities of documents being
seized," a spokesman said

 

Yet strangely enough the allegedly underfunded NHS of yesteryear
ran so much better than today, despite all the extra billions of
our taxes Brown has thrown at it. Why? Ask anyone who works in
the NHS. It's been squandered on new tiers of management.
Tomorrow's generation will pay their index-linked pensions at the
expense of their own.

Only the extremely naive would. The rest would demand to know
what we'd actually be getting for our 5Bn. We've returned to the
daft days when the average twonk believes the govt has money of
it's own to spend. They don't. They only have *our* money that we
work hard for.

Our armed forces still get paid in peacetime. The war came quite
cheap compared to the bast amounts wasted both here at home and
via the EU.

riccip

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, WavyDavy

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

<draws up truth table>

<gets confused>

<gives up>

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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, John Higgins

Shutupshutupshutupshutupshutupshutupshutupshutupshutup!

Don't go planting ideas like that.

Johnny Bloody Foreigner, never knows when to keep mum, eh? What?

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WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
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Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"

 

I might be your neighbour next year, bursting with ideas for new taxes

 

You miss the point I was making. I am well aware genuine and forged
documents are out there for sale.

Just that you and your Daily Mailesque criminal mythology can't get one
in your local pub for a tenner.

 

You do like to name drop the wrong people in your arguments don't you? Yes
Brown et al have thrown monmey at trhe NHS. And yes a lot has been wasted
on strange internal market schemes etc, but I already stated a while back
that this was initiated by to the previous Govt. That;s why I mention the
10 year waiting period later in the e-mail. Cos it'll take at least 10
years for any significant changes or improvements to become noticable. And
surely *yor* argument isin agreement that, without the extra tiers of
management and the internal market the NHS was/would be again better than it
is now....

As for pensions. The system we caurrently have has always been that way.
Current tax/NI payers fund the pensions and benefits of those who have
retired/are on benefits. Of course there might not have been such a problem
with pension funds at the moment if the previous administration basically
forced funds to take a contrbutions holiday by threatening thew funds with
massive taxes on their investments if the funds continued to grow...

Excellent. You agree with me then?

The rest would demand to know

Either: extra doctors, nurses and plod; or another futile war....

We've returned to the

Wrong again. Once it has been paid over in taxes it isn't *our* money or
'taxpayers' money', it's *their* money to spend how they like. May I refer
Sir to my previous comment regarding Daily Mail style arguments.....

The armed forces get paid, but we don't put money into a pot for Lockheed,
Halliburton BAe etc to scoop from at regular, short, intervals in
'peacetime' at the same rate we do when we commit thousands of their 'smart'
weapons to the battlefield.

 

true, provided they know it's gonna cost 'em 19 quid. I do now, but I
wouldn't have done a couple of days ago.

 

granting that the current lot didn't invent the idea, they've not only not
reversed it, unsurprising as you say, (and you didn't want that "not" in
front of unsurprisingly) but have taken the concept and applied it with
vigour to 'most everything. Which is exactly what I would expect of a tory
govt., but not really much to do with traditional socialist concepts, and
IMHO not helpful.

the original ideas about making sure that govt. depratments and govt.-run
were running efficiently was a good one and I'm reasonably convinced that a
lot of them weren't. However, now all we have is a myriad of targets for
everything and sundry and a flood of new management to look after them.

 

Oh I got your point. You're saying I'm a bullshitter. My reply
should have conveyed the message that I couldn't give a flying
**** what you choose to believe.

In truth it's a working men's club in a nearby town where all
things are available. You will almost certainly have a similar
establishment within a 10 mile radius. Get out more and you'll
see.

riccip

 

OK, I need an atomic clock, a mayan artefact, the map to the lost city
of Atlantis, and a bag of pork scratchings.

See what you can do.

 

Not gonna happen as things stand. There's not even a sign or
early indication of an improvement. You wait another 10 years if
you live that long. Otherwise join BUPA.

Ahem, and Brown didn't plunder the pension coffers?

Sorry Comrade, we still live in a democracy. Society elects govt
to do our bidding. It *is* our money, not govt's. It's *our* law,
not the property of the police or judiciary. Socialism has had a
good run but proved itself to be fundamentally flawed. It's being
rejected all across Europe right now and coming to a poll booth
near you. Kilroy-Silk (heaven forbid!) probably has more chance
than Blair of being the next PM.

riccip