DVLA have conceded and are now allowing me to re-apply for my group 2 driving licences[1]. Its not a total victory, I will still have to declare the licence revokation for insurance purposes which will make me almost uninsurable for the next 3 to 5 years, but I would have had to do that in 4 years time anyway. If we could have got DVLA into court we may have been able to overturn the revokation or at least a greater part of it but they were unwilling to risk a test case going against them. When someone quotes statistics employ a statistician. [1] HGV, or more correctly groups C, C+E, C1, D1. -- Kevin - Basildon XV535 GPZ305 (her's) BOTAFOT#67 BOTAFOF#23 OSOS#29
Fucking excellent news, Kev. Keep on fighting the good fight, man. "There are lies, greater lies and statistics".
Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, K Olley Good man. It's been a long old haul, eh? -- Wicked Uncle Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41 ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner", Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
Its the interpretation of the statistics so that they are in your favor that counts. -- Kevin - Basildon XV535 GPZ305 (her's) BOTAFOT#67 BOTAFOF#23 OSOS#29
K Olley wrote: [...] Why can't you get them into court? Surely it's just a matter of suing them? If they don't show up, you win. Or am I missing something (as usual)?
Because they have admitted defeat, If they had not agreed to allowing me to drive group 2 vehicles then my next step would have been to despute their original revokation of my group 2 licences, this would have been in court. The original revokation of my group 2 licences was for 7 years, this was the time that DVLA said that I needed for my epilepsy risk to drop to below 2% per year as per their calculations from certain medical data. It took a considerable amount of time to get specific information from DVLA, once we had got this information it was at first cross checked with a number of medical experts but unfortunately it looked as if DVLA had got their information right. We then brought in a medical statistician to review the data that the decision was originally based on, he spotted a flaw in their interpretation of the data, and we brought this to the attention of DVLA and they have not in so many words admitted defeat. Unfortunately the revised interpretation of the data shows that I would have been within DVLA's epilepsy risk level at the 2 year point, ie 14 months ago. If it had gone to court, the court may have backdated the date of the end of the revokation, this would have been an advantage because I will have to declare the revokation for insurance purposes for the next 3 to 5 years, revokations are treated by insurance co's the same or similar to bans, this will effect my job hunting prospects. -- Kevin - Basildon XV535 GPZ305 (her's) BOTAFOT#67 BOTAFOF#23 OSOS#29
Probably a big drop in the total amount, this was discussed at length before we attempted to recover the licences, the loss of earnings part will drop because I will now be able to get employment in the forseeable future, the other option was partial loss of earnings for rest of working life, ie the difference between crap pay and what I could earn driving. -- Kevin - Basildon XV535 GPZ305 (her's) BOTAFOT#67 BOTAFOF#23 OSOS#29
It will be. Yes I can remember that call, what was said I cannot remember. A lot of calls and visits around that time I cannot remember:-( I had to wait another couple of months, was not allowed to put too much strain on my hips. -- Kevin - Basildon XV535 GPZ305 (her's) BOTAFOT#67 BOTAFOF#23 OSOS#29
This has been mentioned by some of the medical profession. I've even got parts of his phone bill in the claim. I blame it on the drugs, I was not used to taking them like smarties. -- Kevin - Basildon XV535 GPZ305 (her's) BOTAFOT#67 BOTAFOF#23 OSOS#29
r Its not one of my strong points, I am a lousy joke teller and I hate having to talk to groups of people. -- Kevin - Basildon XV535 GPZ305 (her's) BOTAFOT#67 BOTAFOF#23 OSOS#29
Did they use the word "revoke" or did they say something like "suspended on medical grounds"? My many medical suspensions are all irrelevant to inscos, who are happy as long as the DVLA know and have given me a licence. FWIW. -- Cheers! Fr Jack 96 Tiger. FRJACKUKRM AT GMAIL DOT COM skype: fr.jack (without the dot)
The wording is "your licence is revoked" Yep, insurance co's are not allowed to discriminate against disabled drivers, this only seems to apply to private use, when you cross the line into commercial driving whether it be white van man or HGV you start to see a single question, "Have you had a ban or revokation in the last x years", this question requires a yes - no answer, the wrong answer and they will not insure you, if a company cannot insure you they cannot hire you. -- Kevin - Basildon XV535 GPZ305 (her's) BOTAFOT#67 BOTAFOF#23 OSOS#29
Cannot do it, put me in front of a group of people and ask me to speak and I freeze up, The best I can do is instruct to small groups on a hands on type practical subject such as basic rockclimbing or first aid. I am good with my hands but lousy at communicative or organisational type work, and I prefer to work by myself, I am not a team player. -- Kevin - Basildon XV535 GPZ305 (her's) BOTAFOT#67 BOTAFOF#23 OSOS#29
I used to think I wasn't a team player, until I found myself in a proper team. Most "teams" are just people who work in the same office.
