Dumb News

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by flash, May 13, 2005.

  1. flash

    flash Guest

    Just listening to BBC news on t'wireless.

    "Some angry fans even burnt home made effigies of Malcolm Glazer"

    as opposed to shop bought ones?
     
    flash, May 13, 2005
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  2. flash wrote
    I don't understand, the news has only just this minute started, after
    some quite harrowing report on a burd, her mum and their experiences
    with MRSA and The System.


    Who?
     
    steve auvache, May 13, 2005
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  3. flash

    flash Guest

    Sounds like you radio is picking up last week's news. Try thumping the top.
     
    flash, May 13, 2005
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    sorby Guest

    That Glazer bloke is pretty shrewd.
    He's probably already selling official effigies in the club shop.
     
    sorby, May 13, 2005
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  5. flash wrote
    I listen to BBC R4, they make the news.


    I would but I can't find any porn. It is something they seem never to
    have done.
     
    steve auvache, May 13, 2005
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  6. flash

    Martin Guest

    I find the whole spectacle amusing, lots of sad sheep bleating about
    someone buying a public limited company.

    The most effective protest they can make would be to stop buying Man Utd
    products, but that won't happen because being sheep they are not capable
    of free thought.

    --
    Martin:
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    Martin, May 13, 2005
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  7. flash

    elyob Guest

    And the 'leader' of the supportes club ripped up his season ticket. So what?
    There's only one game left and it's an away match.
     
    elyob, May 13, 2005
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  8. What they should oughta done is, as soon as Glazer started looking serious,
    combined to put 25% plus 1 share into a fans' investment trust. Without 75%
    control, he cannot **** about with the balance sheet. The only way he's
    going to be able to afford to buy is by taking on hyooooge amounts of debt,
    and the only way he can do that is by controlling the balance sheet. I told
    a ManU fan [who *said* he was close to the anti-group] this nearly 9 months
    ago, and it's been publicised in the press also. They would benefit from
    their income and capital appreciation of the shares, but title would be
    held - forever, if necessary - in the trust. Had they done that last year,
    Glazer would have walked away. He would have day-to-day management control,
    but he would not have the financial autonomy which was essential to his
    planned financing of the deal.

    I suppose that the fans wouldn't make such a move while there was still a
    snowball's chance of hell of Glazer backing down - which he was never, ever
    going to do. Now they are frantically trying to put this together, and it's
    almost certainly too late. So, take your pick [if you care, which I don't]
    between a slippery, ginger-rinsed, geriatric multi-millionaire tosser like
    Glazer there or a slippery, naturally-coloured, youngish billionaire thief
    like Abramovitch at Chelsea. Which unsavoury, self-promoting arsehole will
    buy Arsenal [what's in a name, eh?] and the other big clubs?
     
    Véritable Rosbif, May 13, 2005
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  9. flash

    Martin Guest

    [snip analysis of Man U sit'n]

    Phew, that took some reading but I got there in the end, you've
    obviously thought about it considerably more than the average fan.


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    Martin, May 13, 2005
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  10. Rosbif could take a man out with just one punch
    But he never did like to talk about it all that much.
    It's my work, he'd say, and I do it for pay
    And when it's over I'd just as soon go on my way
    Up to some paradise
    Where the trout streams flow and the air is nice ...
    [Apologies to Bob Dylan!]

    It's one of those straightforward ratios that are crucial in all corporate
    finance matters. 75%+1 for full financial control. 90%+1 to be able to
    enforce the sale of minority shares. Glazer will want 75%+1, and if the
    fans stay arsey he will neutralise the minority shareholders out of
    existence with a deep-discount rights issue. They will end up with
    firelighters!
     
    Véritable Rosbif, May 13, 2005
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    Martin Guest

    WHOOSH!

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    Martin, May 13, 2005
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  12. Ah. He'll say that all shareholders have the right to subscribe for
    10/100/1000 new shares for every one share they own, at a price of X pence.
    They won't be able to afford them. He will subscribe for his 75%. Instead
    of owning say 20% of the company, they will suddenly own 2%. He will then
    compulsorily purchase the rump [being now <10%], and that will be that. The
    outstanding shares will be ... firelighters, apart from some small curiosity
    value like 19th century Russian railway bonds - except they look rather
    pretty, and I expect that the few remaining paper ManU shares look like
    trash.
     
    Véritable Rosbif, May 13, 2005
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  13. flash

    SteveH Guest

    I think you'll find that was the renewal form.
     
    SteveH, May 13, 2005
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  14. flash

    Martin Guest

    Véritable Rosbif wrote:
    [snip]>>
    That one had vapour trails!
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    Martin:
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    Martin, May 13, 2005
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  15. Not that I give a shit about the trials and tribs of ManU or its fans,
    but a comment I heard today summed it up for me... "If the fans were
    really all that bothered about ownership, they had years in which to buy
    shares of their own."
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, May 13, 2005
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  16. Last try. He will roll right over them. They will be fucked. Their shares
    will be worthless. Because they are football fans ^h^h^h junkies, they will
    keep on paying. Serves 'em right.
     
    Véritable Rosbif, May 13, 2005
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  17. Oh absolutely. I do find the thing strangely interesting - a pile of
    emotional but "tough" macho football fans against a ruthless aging
    American capitalist. Serves them right for not working out who they
    were up against.
     
    Paul Corfield, May 13, 2005
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  18. flash

    Salad Dodger Guest

    I've got things in my fridge that are capable of that.
    We've got lots of those:

    Kokand-Namangan Railway, Baku-Tiflis Railway, Government of the
    Kingdom of Bulgaria, Argentinian Railroads, all sorts of old nonsense.

    ISTR Russia offering to buy them up at 2% of face value, a while back.
    They do. Works of art, those certificates.
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    Salad Dodger, May 14, 2005
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    raden Guest

    I thought they were all burning next seasons season ticket renewal forms
     
    raden, May 14, 2005
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  20. Pound to a penny says that they'll all - bar a very principled ^h^h^h
    impoverished ones - be back to be fleeced next season. Next season is,
    after all, little more than a fortnight away.
     
    Véritable Rosbif, May 14, 2005
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