Ducati buckled wheel. Bollocks

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by The Older Gentleman, Apr 16, 2005.

  1. Like it says - the front wheel on the Duke is a bit out of true. I do
    remember clobbering a pothole a while back.

    I've got the details of a place called Motoliner in Maidstone that trues
    ally wheels (and discs, frames, etc). Luckily the wife of one of the
    partners works two minutes' walk from my office, and they've suggested I
    give her the front wheel and she'll deliver and bring it back, which is
    nice.

    60 quid if I supply wheel with tyre and discs (which all have to come
    off), and 50 quid if I remove discs and tyre myself. As I CBA to faff
    about with tubeless tyres etc, that's a tenner well spent, I think.

    I haven't even asked about the price of a new wheel, as I'm assuming
    it's hundreds and hundreds of quids.

    I've got to get the slight play in the swinging arm sorted out as well,
    before the French Run. Hello, Ducati specialist in Wimbledon. At least
    that'll be the opportunity to fit the nice condition swinging arm that I
    won on Ebay recently......

    Finally - I was ruminating about doing the rear wheel bearings, though
    they seem fine... But how the f*ck do you drift out the old ones? On
    most bikes, there's a sleeve running between the two bearings, and it
    can be displaced slightly to one side, allowing you to get a drift on
    the edge of the race so you can knock it out. But there doesn't seem to
    be anything like that on my SS. I can't see how you can get a purchase
    on the edge of the races at all.

    Anyone know for sure? Or is this another "Throw it at the Ducati dealer"
    moment?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 16, 2005
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  2. Brilliant, just what I wanted to hear. I didn't see the notch.

    I've had the bike from new so nobody's mullered it. Still might get the
    dealer to do it while they're doing the s/arm bushes, mind.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 16, 2005
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  3. Buy a new one and fit the buckled one to the wife's wheelbarrow. All
    sorted.
     
    Paul Corfield, Apr 16, 2005
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    The Older Gentleman scribbled on the back of a napkin:
    Get somebody else to press the old ones out and the new ones in?
     
    Timo Geusch, Apr 16, 2005
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    Eiron Guest

    That's because there is no notch. There never is a notch.
    You move the spacer to one side exposing a bit of bearing inner
    which you can hit with a big hammer and a drift. This bearing is then
    scrap. For the other bearing you can use a big socket that bears on
    the outer section of bearing. This bearing could be reused if you're
    a cheapskate. Remember to support the other side of the wheel on a
    socket bigger than the outside of the bearing. Nothing worse than having
    a bearing stuck in your 32mm socket.

    As for Ducati swinging arm play, try turning the spindle through
    180 degrees to get a bit more wear out of it and shove an extra shim in.
    In the old days the steel spindles wore faster than the bronze bushes.
     
    Eiron, Apr 16, 2005
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  6. Well, that's what normally happens. Except that you can't move the
    spacer to one side - not on mine, at least.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 16, 2005
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  7. Erm, you can't press them *out*.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 16, 2005
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    Simes Guest

    You film soneone pressing them in, then, thread the film in the
    projector backwards and watch them come out.

    Make notes on how it works, then apply it to the actual wheel.
     
    Simes, Apr 16, 2005
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    wessie Guest

    The Older Gentleman emerged from their own little world to say
    bigger hammer
     
    wessie, Apr 16, 2005
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  10. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    Or use Photoshop.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Apr 16, 2005
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    sweller Guest

    You may need to use a lever and more force than you think is necessary,
    IYSWIM.
     
    sweller, Apr 17, 2005
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    Eiron Guest

    Nice notch! Some clumsy bugger must have knocked them off every other
    spacer I have seen. The purpose of your notch isn't to allow you to
    bash the spacer and take out the other bearing. It is to allow you to
    get a drift from the other side onto the bearing you can see in the
    photo and bash that out.
     
    Eiron, Apr 17, 2005
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  13. Well, I'll get a man in. I'm exhausted after doing the head races on the
    CB750.

    I used heat and cold on that - bunged the new bearing cups in the deep
    freeze so they'd go easier into the headstock, and when it came to the
    steering stem cup, bunged the whole bottom yoke in the frezer and heated
    up the bearing cup for a few secons with a blowlamp. Made the job
    easier.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 17, 2005
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    'Hog Guest

    "The Older Gentleman"
    There since you and I rode to France!! then it disappeared again.
    Glad you found it at last.

    'Hog
     
    'Hog, Apr 17, 2005
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  15. <Ponders The Doctor's reaction to deep-fried bearings>

    She still hasn't forgiven me for baking a pair of crankcases in the
    over.

    Good tip, though. Of course, this wasn't a bearing: just a head race
    component. OK, half a bearing, then.....
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 17, 2005
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  16. Yes, I was thinking of that. Odd, because first there was play and then
    it vanished.

    Anyway, the front wheel is sitting in the boot of the car, bound for the
    straightener and his big 'ammer and the swinging arm will get done on
    Monday week, so with luck it'll all be back together for the French Run.

    I'm not really bothered. I've had the bike 7.5 years now and I suppose
    things like this have to be expected as it ages. Or "matures".
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 17, 2005
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    sweller Guest

    Camping stove and an old saucepan will do the trick. I use a twin burner
    stove with a heavy baking tray for heating MZ cases.
     
    sweller, Apr 17, 2005
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