Ducati Belts, for the Ducatisti

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by antonye, Mar 29, 2010.

  1. antonye

    ogden Guest

    Ducati 750ss / 748 - Toyota MR2 with F355 bodykit.

    Ducati Monster - Suzuki Jimny.
     
    ogden, Mar 31, 2010
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  2. antonye

    TOG@Toil Guest

    You're almost certainly right about claimed power outputs and the
    reality. The high-output engines ended to be tiddlers because
    (obviously) the reciprocating masses are smaller and lighter and the
    things rev higher, so (relatively speaking) they're easier to tune
    than, say, 500 twins or even 650 fours. So quite a few 125s would have
    exceeded 12.5bhp.

    Just Googled the CB92, btw: claimed 15bhp and it first appeared in
    1958! As the sports version would get close to 80, that's raised the
    bar to fifty years :)

    For big bikes, I *think* the CBX was the first (1052cc; 105bhp
    claimed) although see above re power claims. I mean, my 400 Four was
    rated at 37bhp though if more than 30bhp ever made it out of that
    engine, I'd be very surprised.

    I think the rough rule of thumb is that you need 30bhp for a road bike
    (as opposed to some stripped-down tiddler or pukka racer) to git a
    genuine ton.
     
    TOG@Toil, Mar 31, 2010
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  3. antonye

    darsy Guest

    those F355 bodykits are gash.

    Though have you seen the "R8" body kits for Audi TTs? Even worse.
    haha - harsh.
     
    darsy, Mar 31, 2010
  4. antonye

    Shaun Guest

    You missed the bit were I compared it to Ducati rates but quoted a DIY
    price.

    But if you want to compare like with like you'll find it actually
    comes out a very reasonable one to two grand depending in the grease
    monkey. Which is rather a lot to service a part the rest of the
    motorcycle industry gets away without fitting.
     
    Shaun, Mar 31, 2010
  5. antonye

    Shaun Guest

    OK you win

    Your prize is ride in a British mainline stream locomotive. A design
    that was abandoned in 2008.
     
    Shaun, Mar 31, 2010
  6. antonye

    Shaun Guest

    Would these be the same NC30s that were basically only sold here so
    proddy racers could use them ?

    A few Honda inline fours had them - Japanese home market models.
    The biggest reason non-VFR owners didn't buy them was

    a) The VTec was universally slagged off in the press for ruining the
    power delivery

    b) They were expensive.

    Obviously I can see loads for former owners were really put off by
    engine complexity - having bought a liquid cooled 16 valve DOHC Vee
    four.

    As all the VFR rivals had camchains as well, I would imagine former
    owners either gave up biking or switched to two strokes.

    Temper Temper.

    Did you sell much when working as a sales rep ?
     
    Shaun, Mar 31, 2010
  7. antonye

    Shaun Guest

    You didn't say "****" this time.

    Well done.
     
    Shaun, Mar 31, 2010
  8. antonye

    Lozzo Guest

    That's all, but they go very well considering they only have a 2 litre
    turbo engine and that's all they have bhp wise.
     
    Lozzo, Mar 31, 2010
  9. antonye

    Lozzo Guest


    Again, you talk out of your arse. At least get your facts somewhere
    near right before replying. Most of them were bought by road riders who
    didn't want a grey import or wanted a brand new NC30. My daughter owned
    a UK spec one and knew of a fair few others through the club that had
    never seen a racetrack.

    Everyone knew that the ZXR400 was the bike to beat and there has never
    to my knowledge been a time where a bike had to be a UK model to be
    eligible for 400cc proddy racing. NC30s were never a top choice for
    proddie racing because they were far too expensive to tune successfully
    due to having gear driven cams which hindered modifying the compression
    ratio
    Whether they were built for Jap home market or any other market is
    neither here nor there.
    No, they stuck with the VFRs they already had, because they knew that
    canchains had been an issue with prior V4s and didn't want to go down
    that route.
    Patronising me doesn't change things, you're still a no-nothing
    ignorant ****.
     
    Lozzo, Mar 31, 2010
  10. antonye

    ogden Guest

    Is there one for the VW Beetle? Crikey.

    JFGI.
     
    ogden, Mar 31, 2010
  11. antonye

    Shaun Guest

    You are aware that 90 bhp/litre for a bike engine is rubbish ?

    Some Honda car engines exceed this with no problems at all.
     
    Shaun, Mar 31, 2010
  12. antonye

    DozynSleepy Guest

    On 31/03/2010 12:55, Shaun wrote:
    snip
    You make your choice and you pay your money. You don't *need* to buy a
    Ducati, you have a *choice*.

    This is how much it cost to do the "absolutely everything" service on my
    ST4s.
    http://tinyurl.com/nphh4o
    http://www.ducatisti.co.uk/forum/du...ajor-service-cost-belt-change.html#post366281

    Come the time when I can no longer afford to maintain it then I'll
    either sell it or keep it in my garage with a large label that says
    "this is a liability not an asset".
     
    DozynSleepy, Mar 31, 2010
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    Catman Guest

    Yes, I hear they go *extremely* well. I just assumed they had more
    power. Fascinating.

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    Catman, Mar 31, 2010
  14. antonye

    TOG@Toil Guest


    Heh. I wonder how many 63cc machines there were? I like the fact that
    the copywriter wasn't even certain that it would beat *all* 63cc
    bikes :))
     
    TOG@Toil, Mar 31, 2010
  15. antonye

    DR Guest

    Shaun posted:
    Many bikes do also. Example: Honda CBR600RR, swept capacity 599cc.
    Claimed power output 107bhp. Approximately 178.6bhp per litre.
     
    DR, Mar 31, 2010
  16. Usual thing. We've seen the type before. Gets all his info from the
    magazines, not realising that they're all-too-frequently wrong and
    rarely impartial.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Mar 31, 2010
  17. Christ, and I thought my maths was lousy.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Mar 31, 2010
  18. antonye

    DR Guest

    The Older Gentleman posted:
    Explain to me how that's wrong. Honestly, please do. I know my maths
    is poor, but I checked that before I posted it. I don't mind being
    proved wrong if it's explained.
     
    DR, Apr 1, 2010
  19. See other posting, after Mark Olson's! Your maths is fine - it's mine
    that's up the creek. Again.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 1, 2010
  20. My 1968 A100-II (98 cc, 50x50 b/s) claimed 9.8 hp. The T500
    reckoned 45 hp.
    650 Katana was 72 hp in 1981, but actually 670-odd cc.

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