Ducati Belts, for the Ducatisti

Belts are a 100k service item on a *proper* gentleman's motorcycle.

Fifty quid a pair.

 

I'd dispute that - on a pure performance scale you may be - but in terms
of how the product is built, you're not.

I'd compare it with Ferrari still building Dinos in the late 90s.

 

They have running costs which make the costs of running a 916 positively
bargain basement.

 

Did you miss the "circa" in his question?

My Leon's an 8 year old runabout that's far from highly strung and
wasn't exactly top of the range when it was new, let alone now. And that
makes 179hp frmo a few cc shy of 1.8 litres.

The VAG 1.4 R4 motor in the Golf, Ibiza and others makes 140hp from 1.4
litres. The Ford Ecoboost is happily putting out 200hp from 2 litres and
that's in shit like the Galaxy and you don't get much more humdrum than
that. This is Ford, ffs. I could look for more but CBA.

Really, 100hp/litre is no great shakes from a mass-market workaday car
engine these days.

 

OK - now do it without a turbo charger. And in many cases without the
dual-mass flywheel.

Have you seen how much a main dealer charges to change a belt on a
modern car, or, for that matter, the cost of replacing a dual-mass
flywheel? [1]

It's all a bit pointless, really - there are some associated costs with
running something like a Ducati - and yes, they may be higher than the
costs of running a car with similar BHP / litre - but it's not as big a
gap as you may think.

[1] I saw the bills going back to Leaseplan from my VW dealer - 800 quid
for a cambelt service and close on £1200 when they did the clutch and
flywheel.

 

Ducati is nowhere near a 2 wheel Ferrari

If you could buy a Ferrari for the price of a Japanese sports car the
vast majority of people would buy the Ferrari

Ducati do offer bikes for the same price as Japanese sports bikes and
the vast majority of people buy Japanese

 

Chains would drown out the noise of the Termignoni race cans

 

http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=8996535

He could out-swear Nige....

Conspiracy theory: that's a Yid forum, so it could be Des....

 

I claimed the solution was abandoned 25 years ago.

Now remind us when the VFR was designed ?.

 

So you agree that Ducati made the right choice in choosing belts rather than
chains and it's the other bikes that are wrong. Sorry, I misunderstood what
you were saying earlier in the thread.

 

....and not one of my bikes.

114/1.284
100/1.520
105/1.047 [1]

All twin-shock, all five-speed. What a cutting-edge line-up.

[1]There's no way the CBX makes 105bhp. Or ever did.

 

The VFR1000R was a road legal racing bike designed to dominate
production bike racing. That pearl of wisdom seems to have passed you
by.

The vast majority of the time tensioners stick. They don't go without
warning, unlike a belt.

 

Pointing out that engines in a low state of tune last longer that
engines in a high state of tune is part of the engineering principle
called "stating the bleedin obvious"

The key word being "effectively"

 

I look forward to you showing us numerous examples of 1.1 litre V4 car
engines.... especially ones of all alloy construction with 100bhp.

 

I would imagine if I defended the cambelt life of Ducati sportsbikes
by quoting touring bikes made by Honda I would look pretty stupid....

 

Any MV F4 is by definition more Ferrari than any Ducati. Or did Ferrari
design the Desmoseidici engine too?

 

No-one knew the servicing costs when they were first released, but
everyone knew they'd done away with gear driven cams.

 

The reality seems to have passed you by. In typical Honda fashion they
built a flagship model that had everything desireable in its day - such
as the different Comstar wheels, and gear driven cams - and then sold
them mainly for road use at a hugely inflated price making them quite
desireable collectors items. They did the same with the NR750 - it
wasn't a race bike by any means despite all the technology applied to
it, and nor was the VF1000R.

Again, you're just proving your ignorance.

 

You don't need to, you're doing a pretty good job of making yourself
look a complete arse with everything else you say

 

Hmm. This bait's malfunctioning.