Ducati Belts, for the Ducatisti

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by antonye, Mar 29, 2010.

  1. antonye

    Catman Guest

    Is he new, or has he been here before?

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    Catman, Mar 30, 2010
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    SteveH Guest

    And how many cars put out circa 100bhp from 1.1 litres?
     
    SteveH, Mar 30, 2010
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  3. antonye

    Catman Guest

    Well, it was worth a try :) That >£400 is the whole service. TBH I don't
    know what the extras come in at, or if your independant is just quoting
    for the belt change and parts.

    Anyway, I pretty much have found a new tame mech. Can't recall last time
    I went to Jamie. Got *so* pissed off with his useless receptionist.

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    Catman, Mar 30, 2010
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  4. antonye

    Lozzo Guest

    I meant VFR sales fu=igures, as well you know.
    The VFR400F NC30 in UK spec sold every single one within 2 months of
    being unloaded at the docks, despite a price tag that was almost as
    much as the newly released Fireblade at the time. I also pointed out
    that some Honda inline four 400s had them too, but you conveniently
    forgot to mention those.
    You tried to make out that just a handful of early VFR750s had gear
    driven cams and then Honda went over to chains again on the later 750s,
    which is not the case. EVERY SINGLE VFR750 HAD GEAR DRIVE CAMS AND ALL
    VFR800s to 2003 HAD THEM AS WELL. That's a total of 17 year's worth of
    VFR production.

    If you can't make yourself clear, then don't bother posting. You'll
    just end up looking like an even bigger nob than you already are.
    Incorrect, I spoke to numerous Honda dealers all over my area as I was
    a sales rep in the bike trade at that time, and the biggest reason they
    gave for the declining sales of the VFR800 was the chain driven cams
    and associated complexity did not go down well with current VFR owners
    so they weren't trading up to the new V-Tec model.
    I say you know **** all about **** all and are clutching at straws. I
    don't need to do my homework, this kind of stuff is all in my head and
    I am one of those who knows what the **** he's on about in most
    instances.
     
    Lozzo, Mar 30, 2010
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  5. antonye

    Lozzo Guest

    He's a fucking moron, what rock did he crawl out from under?
     
    Lozzo, Mar 30, 2010
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    ogden Guest

    Not many cars have an engine as small as 1.1 litres these days, but of
    the ones that do the VW Polo has an option for a 1.2 litre engine with
    104hp.
     
    ogden, Mar 30, 2010
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  7. Dunno. We've had a few self-appointed motorcycle FOAKs here before. They
    never last long.

    This one's read a few magazines, failed to spot the mistakes, and
    assumed everything printed therein is Gospel.

    I'm waiting for:

    The GPZ900R was the first Japanese water-cooled inline four.

    The BMW K was the first fuel-injected production bike

    The CBR600 was the first Honda with its barrels cast into the crankcases

    And similar demonstrations of ignorance.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Mar 30, 2010
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  8. antonye

    ogden Guest

    ....on which note a more relevant question, given the paucity of cars
    with rinky-dink engines, would be how many cars have engines putting out
    100hp per litre. And the answer is quite a few.
     
    ogden, Mar 30, 2010
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  9. <snip rant>

    Kidney stone giving you gyp again?
    This is true.

    He's barking mad the rest of the time, mind.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Mar 30, 2010
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  10. antonye

    SteveH Guest

    Using a twin-charger setup with a dubious record for reliability.

    (It may have been fixed by now - but 18 months ago VW had to withdraw
    the 1.4TSI and re-introduce the old 1.6)
     
    SteveH, Mar 30, 2010
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  11. Yeah, but forty years or more after Japanese production motorcycles
    managed it.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Mar 30, 2010
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  12. antonye

    SteveH Guest

    True - and until recently that came at a price to either fuel economy or
    reliability, or both - I'd certainly not expect to be able to treat one
    with the same kind of neglect an ST1100 engine will take.
     
    SteveH, Mar 30, 2010
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    Catman Guest


    I wonder if they wander in from one of the web forums where we get
    re-posted. I suspect Jack Butler, sock puppet spotter extraordinaire may
    well be something similar.


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    Catman, Mar 30, 2010
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  14. antonye

    Lozzo Guest

    Yes - **** off!
    Yes - **** off!
     
    Lozzo, Mar 30, 2010
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  15. antonye

    Catman Guest


    1.2l at 104hp is 16hp short of 100 per litre.

    I know none of mine come close. The GT is at least 40 short IIRC, but I
    guess Scoobys and Evos would probably be over it?

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    Catman, Mar 30, 2010
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    ts Guest

    That seems reasonable, and with tensioning thrown into the equation as
    well.

    (snip)
    That was what made me wondering - the ones I took off mine looked very
    nice; no fraying or visual signs of wear. But prophylactic fitting of
    new ones is cheap insurance.
    Agree, fitting new belts on the 750SS was too easy to be a challenge.
    Only getting the horizontal belt cover off was a bit tricky, until I
    realised I could loosen the oil hose that runs outside it without
    spilling engine oil over the side of the engine.
     
    ts, Mar 30, 2010
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    ogden Guest

    Hey, you started it.

    If you buy a Desmoseidici or, to a lesser degree, a top-end MV Augusta,
    you're buying the 2-wheeled equivalent of a Ferrari.

    If you buy a high-end Ducati (916/996/1098) you're buying the 2-wheeled
    equivalent of an Alfa Romeo.

    If you buy a low-end Ducati (900ss, etc) you're buying the 2-wheeled
    equivalent of a Fiat Punto with a Lancia badge slapped on the front.
     
    ogden, Mar 30, 2010
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  18. antonye

    ogden Guest

    So what? We're not talking bleeding edge here, we're talking mass-
    production and well below the high performance bracket. Mine makes bang
    on 100hp/litre and it's a glorified shopping trolley ffs.
     
    ogden, Mar 30, 2010
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  19. antonye

    Catman Guest

    Coo, really? I can't decide if you're bigging up Alfas (which seems
    unlikely) or dissing Ducati sport bikes (which seems almost as unlikley)
    Surely they aren't that crap?

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    Catman, Mar 30, 2010
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  20. antonye

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Every day really is a school day because most people I've spoken to
    who loved the original VFR750 and VFR800 said they went away from them
    because of servicing costs. I suppose this ties in with Lozzos point
    about complexity but it wasn't so much that they were Luddites as that
    they were cheapskates.

    Whichever way you look at it Hondas are shit and any discerning sports
    bike owner will want to have a Desmo Ducati of some description before
    they die.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Mar 30, 2010
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