Ducati Belts, for the Ducatisti

I suspect your car is just *slightly* slower than even my old
SuperSport.

Pointless comparison - compare the cost of a Ducati belt change with a
Ferrari belt change and you'd be making a valid comparison.

Strangely, such a comparison would make the bike look like it could be
run on the change down the back of the sofa.

 

I mercilessly flogged my newly changed belt driven 916 for 2000 hard miles.

I rode the VTR slowy uphill for 3 miles & the chain tensioner broke,
resulting in a fucked angine.

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Nige,

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Yamaha R1
Range Rover Vogue

 

The majority of cars have belts for the same reason Ducatis have -
they are cheap to manufacture.

Therefore you have little choice when buying a car but to get one with
a belt. Obviously car owners don't consider having to rebuild them in
shed every week as normal, so they have belt driven engines that are
designed to be reliable.

 

But its basically designed to be so lowly stressed its effectively a
car engine in a bike frame.

 

Bugger, did mine way too early then.

 

Yup, a doddle.

 

And looked what happened to their sales figures when Honda decided to
do away with gear driven cams.

Your knowledge is flawed, as is your whole argument. A few home market
400s, and the UK market VFR400F NC30 as well. Every VFR750 and its
variants made from 1986 to 1997[1] and then the VFR800i from 1998 to
2003 - all had gear driven cams as well as some inline four 400cc
models. When Honda took the decision to revert back to chain driven
cams on the V-Tec 800i, sales figures mainly fell through the floor
because of it.

Do your homework or STFU, idiot.

[1] Without doubt one of the most popular and reliable Hondas every
built.

 

We got sales disasters like the CBR600 and the Fireblade

So to recap,

I claim home market 400s had gear driven cams. This you refute by
pointing out home market 400s (which includes the VFR400F that sold
bugger all in the UK) had gear driven cams.

I claim VFR750s had gear driven cams apart from the later ones. You
refute this by pointing out the VFR750 had gear driven cams apart from
the later ones (which were 800s).

Nice line in reasoning there.

Oh and you'll find that sales of the V-Tec VFR fell because people
hated the power characteristic of VTec, not because the the chain
driven cams.

You were saying about doing your homework ?

 

Are you claiming your shonky old Ducati has the performance of a
Ferrari, or are you claiming it's the Ferrari of the motorcycle world?
Because for both of them you're having a giraffe.

 

Too many variables - positioning, storage conditions, mileage,
contamination, etc.

The belts on the race bike were changed after one weekend
at Brands due to a quick trip into Paddock Hill to admire
and collect some gravel. One of the stones was rubbing the
belt and had already started it on it's way to fraying.

However, since those were done it has lasted 4 years without
needing new ones. I check them over, check the tension and
make sure they're good enough to reuse.

They really are a doddle to change, I don't know why people
get so hung up on them. It's usually either that or moaning
about problems with the (Japanese made) electrics. It often
makes me wonder if it's a green-eyed monster thing, but hey,
if they want to ride the same bike as everyone else, that's
fine by me!

 

Re other post, it's about that for a belt change on my motor, which
while it might not quite be as quick off the mark as something as light
as your ducati, will give it a good run for its money generally.

 

It's not just about the peformance (although comparing cars with bikes
is almost always a futile comparison - given that bikes are much more
highly strung, in general, than anything bar exotica).

If you're buying from a brand such as Ducati, you are essentially buying
the 2-wheeled equivalent of a Ferrari - yes, some of the Jap. brands can
build something that's just as fast, or faster, with better reliability,
but you make the choice of buying something mass produced on a
production line vs something with a much more 'hand crafted' input and
pay the price in running costs.

 

And they're quieter.

 

Wrong again. The first, second, fourth, tenth 750s all had cam gear
drive, and so did the pre-VTEC 800s. Oh, and the VF1000R did, back in
the mid-1980s. Next pearl of wisdom?

Routine servicing, yes. Until the tensioner fails and then it's shell
out for a new one.

Oh, and a few bikes have been known to destroy themselves when the
tensioner breaks.

 

Gold Wings have long change intervals too.

He's wonderfully ignorant, isn't he?

 

No, you claimed they stopped making them 25 years ago:

"Expensive solution that was tried and abandoned 25 years ago."

Dear me, you're not very good at this.

 

So?

Um, what cars use the ST engine, then?

 

On a V6? In somewhere less pikey than Wales?

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You missed the 'rather a lot less' bit, then?

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I was quoting 4-pot prices.

And I really wouldn't go as far as to claim Essex is 'less pikey' than
Wales....