Drum Brake Efficiency

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Dr Big Maggot, Oct 19, 2003.

  1. I am not happy with the performance of the rear brake (drum)
    on the DR BIG. The CX rear was heaps better... I have new
    shoes in there but figure there may be something else
    wrong.

    I plan to disassemble the back end to see how much contact I
    have between the shoes and the drum (make sure the whole
    surface of the shoe is contacting). I believe that this can
    be adjusted (to compensate for actuator wear and drum wear)
    with shims/spacers?

    What else can I do to improve drum braking performance? Do I
    need to de-glaze the inside of the drum? Is it just a matter
    of getting in there with some coarse abrasive?

    I remember an article from years back that suggested cutting
    angled groves in the face of the brake shoes (mainly for
    dirt bikes, to help remove water and mick quickly). Would
    this help overall braking efficiency?

    Any suggestions (other than "replace the back end for a disc
    setup") or links would be appreciated.

    This thing is bloody huge... so is my bike!
    DR750, (CX500, KL, KLX, EL, XR, IT, GSX and XL 250s, CB360)
    ICQ# 5662270 - http://www.baconplanet.com
     
    Dr Big Maggot, Oct 19, 2003
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  2. In aus.motorcycles on 19 Oct 2003 19:55:16 +1000
    Single leader? Double?
    Take the whole wheel to a drum brake man and get it skimmed. He'll
    match the shoes to the drum for you.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Oct 19, 2003
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  3. Single leader? Double?

    Err... pardon my ignorance... but what's the difference?

    Do I need to get the drum measured to make sure it hasn't
    worn/stretched/distorted beyond useful tolerances?

    Zebee



    This thing is bloody huge... so is my bike!
    DR750, (CX500, KL, KLX, EL, XR, IT, GSX and XL 250s, CB360)
    ICQ# 5662270 - http://www.baconplanet.com
     
    Dr Big Maggot, Oct 19, 2003
    #3
  4. In aus.motorcycles on Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:46:01 +1000
    In single leading shoe, only one shoe is activated, and takes the other
    with it. IN double, they both are, so setting it up is more complex.

    If you only have one actuating arm, it's single leader, if your brake
    rod connects to one and that one is connected to another by another rod,
    you have a double.

    Twin Leader is not all that common on rear brakes, my T has it , and
    I've seen it on a couple of others. It's most often used on late front
    brakes.
    That's what the brake man's for. Take the whole wheel to him, including
    shoes and brake plate, and talk to him about condition and options.
    He'll probably have good advice about setting up too. If you are
    planning on keeping the bike, then a chat to a good brake man is very
    worth while.

    TO find him, find a shop that specialises in old Brit bikes. Union Jack
    or Modak in Melbourne are probably worth a call. In Sydney the bod
    is Dave Blisset and he can be found on the Parts and Services page at
    http://aigor.org. NOt sure about elsewhere.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Oct 19, 2003
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  5. Thanks for the advice. I am probably not planning on keeping
    it for *that* much longer, so I may just open her up and
    have a bit of a dig around in there myself for the time
    being.

    In aus.motorcycles on Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:46:01 +1000
    Dr Big Maggot
    In single leading shoe, only one shoe is activated, and
    takes the other
    with it. IN double, they both are, so setting it up is more
    complex.

    If you only have one actuating arm, it's single leader, if
    your brake
    rod connects to one and that one is connected to another by
    another rod,
    you have a double.

    Twin Leader is not all that common on rear brakes, my T has
    it , and
    I've seen it on a couple of others. It's most often used on
    late front
    brakes.
    That's what the brake man's for. Take the whole wheel to
    him, including
    shoes and brake plate, and talk to him about condition and
    options.
    He'll probably have good advice about setting up too. If
    you are
    planning on keeping the bike, then a chat to a good brake
    man is very
    worth while.

    TO find him, find a shop that specialises in old Brit bikes.
    Union Jack
    or Modak in Melbourne are probably worth a call. In Sydney
    the bod
    is Dave Blisset and he can be found on the Parts and
    Services page at
    http://aigor.org. NOt sure about elsewhere.

    Zebee
     
    Dr Big Maggot, Oct 19, 2003
    #5
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