Drop in fuel mileage

I find it hard to believe that anyone could really be so ignorant of
fundamental geology.

****, I know nothing about it, and even *I* know that the above is
complete and utter bollocks.

 

I'm guessing wasting and energy and destroying the environment aren't the
only problems they're creating for themselves.

 

Really? So where does all this water go do ya think?

 

They are going to be *the* dominant economy in not-so-many years, no
matter what Bush thinks to the contrary. Assuming they don't have their
own Wall Street Crash in the meantime, and even that, that'll only delay
them.

 

Read it again.

There was a time when there was *no* water on this planet.

 

I think someone should have specified between the three states of H20.
IOW, Water in the form of ice has often varied sea levels and fresh
water surface lakes greatly. Also, water vapor in the air changes on a
global level but not very much. And how much H20 is below the surface
in the form of, permafrost, shale and ground water. But overall H20
has been a global constant or at least very close to constant.

How do we know that H20 is a relative constant or at least back 4
billion years to when life began on the earth? Not to sound ambiguous
but there are lots a ways to cross-reference these things. Core
samples, fossil records, ect. Also, our atmosphere is closely tied to
H20 levels. Some scientist claim there was higher 02 levels in our
atmosphere in the Dino age but it's really just speculation as there
is no way to prove or disprove this. Also, there have been claims the
earth had a larger mass at one time but again, there is no proof for
such allegations.

The bottom line being, we still know very little of the history of the
earth for certain. There are lots of theories floating around but in
reality few proofs.

Now, back to water (H20), save the loss of our atmosphere, where would
it go anyway? You pee, it's flushes and some of the water evaporates
and returns as rain.

Think about it. Even on Mars, with a very thin atmosphere it is
strongly believed, no...rather known to have water, at least in the
form of polar ICE. Scientists believe much more is present in the form
of shale & ground (mostly frozen) H20 far from the poles.
Also, what caused all the erosion on Mars, save ancient liquid H20?
There are lots of possibilities. Maybe Mars was once similar to earth
but its smaller mass and greater distance from the sun has made a once
living planet effectively dead now. Did the core solidify? Who knows
at this point in time? More speculation but, over time, we're learning
-J

Finally: think about this. Gravity is what holds our atmosphere to the
earth. Above say 50,00ft the atmosphere there is very little H20. Why?
Air can only support so much water vapor, so the thinner the air, the
less water it will contain (just look at the clouds and rain/hail/snow
if you doubt). That simply means that the earth's gravity naturally
Holds H20 closer to the surface due to it's relatively high mass when
compared to pure air. Also, our rotating liquid iron core and
resulting magnetic field acts as a shield (ionosphere) to prevent our
thin atmosphere from "eventually" getting blown out into space. This
is also ground for speculation as to why Mars doesn't have much of an
atmosphere. Then other factors come to light, like lower mass and less
solar wind (distance) to blow away any atmosphere. Right back to lots
of speculation but few facts -J



Bob Nixon, Chandler AZ
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You mean that the Earth is NOT a closed system?!?

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PC Paul
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"To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to
society" - Theodore Roosevelt

 

See other posting.

When the earth was a ball of hot rock, there wasn't any water, was
there?

So saying: "There is the same amount of water on the planet now as there
always has been." is bollocks.

Was bollocks, still is, always will be.

 

It was there in elemental form. Try reading a basic science textbook.

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77 R100RS

Trip pics at: http://photos.yahoo.com/paul1cart

"To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to
society" - Theodore Roosevelt

 

So, wiseguy, where DID the water come from?

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"To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to
society" - Theodore Roosevelt

 

OK, so hydrogen and oxygen were there.

That's like saying because carbon and hydrogen were also there, the
planet was made of sugar.

 

See Tweak's posting.

Are we learning yet?

 

Not for very long...it only took god seven days to create the earth, so
maybe there was no water for six days then.

Unless there is no god, and that would make 55% of America WRONG!
(Including the guy at the top!)

The water was always here as basic elements....when it was a molten
rock, it was in the molten rock.

The 'space water truck' did not turn up and top up the oceans for us.

 

Nevermind, it's a TROLL!
TTFN


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PC Paul
89 PC800
77 R100RS

Trip pics at: http://photos.yahoo.com/paul1cart

"To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to
society" - Theodore Roosevelt

 

Well, don't tell TOG that, he's out at the curb waiting for it...

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PC Paul
89 PC800
77 R100RS

Trip pics at: http://photos.yahoo.com/paul1cart

"To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to
society" - Theodore Roosevelt

 

OK, I'll go along with you on this one.....

There is no evolution and the world was created in seven days by a God
(Who 'created' him?...another god who created our god in HIS own image?)
with man being made in this Gods image, and a woman was made from a rib
of this man...then these two people populated the whole world.

Do you belive in dinosaurs and fossils (Which have been carbon dated)?

Do you think humans were alive at the same time as dinosaurs?

Do you trust DNA evidence? We share 98% of a chimps DNA.....

Time to face reality....humans are just another species of animal...and
we are evloving all the time, not over just a couple of thousand years,
but millions. Evolution is not just about 'changing shape'.

 

"Since recorded time" is only the length of time humans have bothered to
write things down, a short span of a few thousand years. Have you
ever looked at a time line and compared the length of time humans have
been here compared to the age of the planet?
We still haven't discovered all the animals on this planet (deep sea
creatures for example) and new plant species have been found in the
Amazon jungles. A species doesn't just 'rise', they evolve.

Why don't you ask him yourself?
If you can't say how long a God day is, why even ask about new species
in our 'recorded' time?
Our 'recorded' time could be a God blink!

Apart from mankinds mind, where does god exist?


Please don't confuse one's belief

I won't. At least you have your beliefs without swallowing the sermons.


When foolish men try to interpret gods works

When you say 'Gods words'are you refferring to the bible? or the ten
commandments, or has he said other stuff?

So, when intelligent men interpret gods words good things happen? (Every
action has an equal and opposite re-action)

Is Allah a God?

I bet that pissed off the dinosaur god! Genocide is uaually a human trait.

I don't remember reading the chapter in the bible (gods words?) were it
points out that he created the world, populated it with dinosaurs (which
evolved from sea animals), then wiped them out and THEN Adam and Eve
came along........

Not at all. I'm just saying humans are closely related to chimpanzees,
more so than to gorrilas for example. We are all distinct species, but
we share a lot in common on the DNA tree.

 

No water! Wow! How about...uummm.....recombination of the molecules which
make up water?

 

?? So we kill them faster than they evolve...this is a surprise?

The bible says 7 days. Are you saying the Bible is just a bunch of lies told
to a bunch of liars and translated into something which was SUPPOSED to say
"10,000 years" instead of 7 days and nights?

Got any signed autographs? Hell, anything left of the ten commandants carved
in stone by him in a musuem somewhere?

How about when foolish men try and interpret ANYTHINGS works, do good things
happen? I'll give him best for the Grand Canyon, even though I think the
Colorado River should get the credit.

Are you sure he didn't want MONKEYS to thrive, and then stopped paying
attention to evolution to turn us into Cro Magnons when his back was turned?

98% of her apparently. Just like yours.

 

We can't know this. Humans have been keeping fairly close
track of "species" only for a few hundred years, tops, and even
today we are by no means sure that we know of every species
that exists. For that matter, the whole notion of "species" is to
a great degree a human invention.

Further, those types of animals and plants - "species," if you
like - which are likely to be evolving the fastest are the very
ones that we do not and cannot track all that closely; the
smaller, simpler creatures such as pretty much all the
invertebrates. How could we ever be sure that new species of
insects are NOT appearing? No, we haven't seen a new species
derived from, say, horses or giraffes - but then, that's exactly the
sort of animal which SHOULD take a very long time to change,
owing both the smaller population (relative to, say, insects) and
the much longer lifespans. And how would you know that a new
species had arisen, anyway? Even with, say, dogs or chickens -
how do you propose to prove that the species we see today
are identical with those which existed 10,000 or even 1,000
years ago?

Nope, not until you can actually demonstrate this "god" and ask
him/her/it.

The idea of a God whose existence is literally infinite in time, along
with a universe whose existence is presumably not, has its own
problems...

Are you saying here that you don't understand anything at all about
what evolutionary theory actually says?


Bob M.