in message [QUOTE] With an apple in the left hand I'd have thought so, yes.[/QUOTE] There's a huuuuge difference between eating an apple and using a mobile phone. When using a mobile phone, not only is one of your hands not on the wheel, but you are also holding a conversation and therefore not concentrating on what you are doing. That's why I think the legal use of hands free sets is pathetic. Mind you, some of the inhabitants of UKRM probably don't think when they are talking and need to cncentrate when they chew ;-)