Dont forget to VOTE

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by flash@work, Jun 10, 2004.

  1. whose MP?

    mine is Neil Gerrard, Labour MP for Walthamstow. On and Harry Cohen is
    Labour MP for Leyton and guess what Ian Duncan Smith is Conservative MP
    for Chingford and IIRC David Lamay (sp?) is Labour MP for Tottenham - he
    is a minister in the Labour Government. They are all the neighbouring
    constituencies.

    Oh and if you live in darsy land up Enfield way then your (Labour) MP is
    Stephen Twigg who booted out Michael Portillo in 1997. Oh and that's all
    from memory - I've not checked any website.

    Next stupid question.
     
    Paul Corfield, Jun 11, 2004
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    Ginge Guest

    What are their registration numbers, and are they 'dangers on the road'?
     
    Ginge, Jun 11, 2004
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  3. I'm not interested in learning how it all works, as this involves effort
    on my part into something I find intolerably dull (I smell a vicious
    circle here). I would love to find out incontrovertibly that all
    politicians are wonderful, caring, compassionate human beings of
    integrity and honour, whose sole motivation is the betterment of their
    fellow man, without reservation.

    Here's my main gripe. It may seem simplistic, and isn't necessarily
    relevant to the current elections, but this is it. Where I live is a
    very, very safe parliamentary seat for party X. It would take nothing
    short of the personal appearance and direct overt intervention of a god
    to make it otherwise. My beliefs and principles, limited as they are,
    do not allow me to vote for this party, but voting for anyone else
    serves no purpose. Why, therefore, should I vote at all, if my vote
    does nothing?
     
    Darren Robinson, Jun 11, 2004
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  4. It's easier to believe they're all bad than they're all good, especially
    when you feel as powerless as I do, and I think that's the heart of it.
    At least in a dictatorship I wouldn't have to pretend I could change
    anything.
     
    Darren Robinson, Jun 11, 2004
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    platypus Guest

    You instant gratification addict.
     
    platypus, Jun 11, 2004
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    Ginge Guest

    Is that a polite term for wanker?
     
    Ginge, Jun 11, 2004
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    platypus Guest

    You hope for Utopia. You're not going to get from here to there without
    exerting yourself. Think of this as a sort of civic duty.
    It helps to keep the bastard honest(ish). Your opposition should be
    implacable, even if this only consists of trudging up the road occasionally
    to incise two intersecting lines on a bit of paper.

    Is this too much to do?
     
    platypus, Jun 11, 2004
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  8. Ha. We got postal this year. How much easier could it be? Parish
    council elections (no party affiliations) for us, too - my mum's
    standing for that one (should I be allowed a vote on that?).

    As a matter of fact, I rarely miss the opportunity, out of principle.
    It's my right, that people fought and died for, and I'm going to use it.
    I just wish it *felt* like I was doing something important, or making a
    difference.
     
    Darren Robinson, Jun 11, 2004
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    platypus Guest

    Darren goes postal...
    Fair play. I know I'm doing something important, I just wish it felt more
    like stuffing Blair into an orange jumpsuit and slapping[1] him into the
    Tower. Mined yew, it was amusing to see that the nation decided to use the
    Euro-elections to administer a richly-deserved drubbing. Just a pity that
    the Tories had to benefit.

    [1]Thwap! Thwap! Thwap! Thwap! Thwap! Thwap! Thwap! Thwap! Thud! Clank!
    Rattle! Clink!
     
    platypus, Jun 11, 2004
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    Ginge Guest

    Locally here they didn't, Lib Dem won back a conservative seat on a no
    overall control council, unfortunately one with labour still holding
    more seats than the other parties.

    I'm glad I voted now, mind.
     
    Ginge, Jun 11, 2004
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    platypus Guest

    Overall, the Tories are smirking.
    I always feel a sense of duty done, this time there's a little extra.
     
    platypus, Jun 11, 2004
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    Owen Guest

    I actually miss his presence, but then I'm sad... I'll get me coat...
    --
    O
    1 Black, shortly to undergo extensive surgery.
    1 Red, undergoing lightweight surgery. -----
    1 Blue, for Power-Ranger baiting. | o |
    Numbers ... | o |
    Stuff ... | ooo |
    Life ... -----
     
    Owen, Jun 11, 2004
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    Owen Guest

    Shame, and you being so clever an' all...
    --
    O
    1 Black, shortly to undergo extensive surgery.
    1 Red, undergoing lightweight surgery. -----
    1 Blue, for Power-Ranger baiting. | o |
    Numbers ... | o |
    Stuff ... | ooo |
    Life ... -----
     
    Owen, Jun 11, 2004
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    Zymurgy Guest

    Ben Blaney wrote
    Petri dish ?

    P.
     
    Zymurgy, Jun 12, 2004
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    Zymurgy Guest

    You're not missing much :)

    HTH

    Paul.
     
    Zymurgy, Jun 12, 2004
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    AOL. I hear that he not actually very mad any more, from those in
    Another Place. Contrary to what he obviously thinks, I'm really rather
    fond of him.
     
    Ben Blaney, Jun 12, 2004
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    Abso Guest

    Well, I have to admit it was mostly the fact that I was smarting from
    being told I couldn't vote which got my dander up. Earlier in the day
    I had decided I wasn't going to bother but found myself at a loose end
    so popped down there.

    In retrospect I'm ambivalent about it.
     
    Abso, Jun 12, 2004
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    Verdigris Guest

    On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 10:23:35 +0100, Champ wrote:

    I can understand this, but I think there might be value in votging for the
    party you want, regardless. It's a very long term strategy, though, and
    sometimes one of the candidates will be so awful that one has to do
    whatever's necessary to keep them out.

    Labour do have a couple of seats on the council though, don't they?[0]
    With NOC one or two sweats can give a party a disproportionate influence.
    So a Labour vote isn't necessarily wasted.
    I don't remember seeing them on the ballot form before. Nor have I
    noticed that they have any sort of presence here, or elsewhere in
    Gloucestershire.[1] Have I missed something?

    [0] Mostly from student-rich wards. Pitville used to return a Labour
    councilor, I think.
    [1] Gloucester, iirc, is the only constituency in the country to have
    returned an Asian MP which does NOT have a majority asian population.
     
    Verdigris, Jun 13, 2004
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    Verdigris Guest

    On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 21:50:30 +0100, Darren Robinson wrote:

    So called "safe" seats can change, but it takes time. Your vote may
    encourage more votes at the next election, and the one after that until
    one day it isn't so safe anymore.
     
    Verdigris, Jun 13, 2004
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    sweller Guest

    My life has meaning again! And I'm no longer the establishment within
    the Union.

    Oh, to take on the old CP Stalinists, former comrades, who have all the
    tactics but none of the politics.

    Actually, I fucking hate them and it.
     
    sweller, Jun 13, 2004
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