Donington Weather

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Racing' started by Julian Bond, Jul 22, 2005.

  1. Julian Bond

    Julian Bond Guest

    It looks like the weather is going to be the worst possible this
    weekend. Short showers and misty drizzle.

    What fun. It's getting quite likely that we'll have a wet and dry final
    practice and a wet and dry race. Maybe this is the race where we see pit
    stops.
     
    Julian Bond, Jul 22, 2005
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  2. Julian Bond

    pablo Guest

    The more things change, the more they stay the same, eh? Rain or not, once
    again Rossi seems the fav to win this. Yawn. Edwards poised to come from
    behind and challenge, that mayb be exciting. Everybody else pretty much
    being their usual self. Biaggi has been conservative in Q all season, it
    seems his goal no longer is to win races, but merely to be among the top 5.
    He'll remain in GP for a while doing that, but he seems to have fallen
    behind the pack of first rate challengers - and one can assume he's out of
    HRC after falling way short of te expectations that were set upon him. He'll
    probably win his customary race when everything comes together, and it'll be
    interesting to see where he winds up or whether he decides to retire. From a
    distance, it seems his customary intesisty seems gone, hinting it may be
    getting close to that for him.

    ....pablo
     
    pablo, Jul 23, 2005
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  3. Julian Bond

    pablo Guest

    The more things change, the more they stay the same, eh? Rain or not, once
    again Rossi seems the fav to win this. Yawn. Edwards poised to come from
    behind and challenge, that mayb be exciting. Everybody else pretty much
    being their usual self. Biaggi has been conservative in Q all season, it
    seems his goal no longer is to win races, but merely to be among the top 5.
    He'll remain in GP for a while doing that, but he seems to have fallen
    behind the pack of first rate challengers - and one can assume he's out of
    HRC after falling way short of te expectations that were set upon him. He'll
    probably win his customary race when everything comes together, and it'll be
    interesting to see where he winds up or whether he decides to retire. From a
    distance, it seems his customary intesisty seems gone, hinting it may be
    getting close to that for him.

    ....pablo
     
    pablo, Jul 23, 2005
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  4. Julian Bond

    pablo Guest

    It may be that, but I tend to the school of thought that Q also entails a
    lot of poker-playing and doing the most with minimum effort. Sometimes I
    tend to read many laps of "nearly there" times as someone who was feeling
    really good about their setup and was pushing it, but then didn't quite
    bring it. And the guys that just do a few very fast laps with minmal effort
    are the ones that bring a lot of self-confidence into the race, even when
    they don't come out tops. We'll just have to wait and see.
    That's why I think Edrwards is a true joker here, he was not the fastest,
    but it seems to me he was so comfortable he was merely optimizing his race
    setup. I think him and Rossi are thus strong candidates for a 1-2. The order
    I am not definite about.
    Yes, it'll be interesting to see how it turns out in the tricky Donington (I
    even spelled it right) circuit tomorrow. I'll be watching, this one is
    intriguing. I think Rossi's got the edge, but I give him just a sub-50%
    probability, because others seemed confident despite their times.
    Gibernau's year is off, and perhaps his string near the top is over, because
    it may be this year broke his streak of confidence. Likely so, I'd venture
    to say. Biaggi was a few additional years into "Rossi challenger" status,
    and with his HRC status... where can he go now? I seem to sense that with no
    excuses left, he's now internally accepted that he's no Rossi challenger,
    and thus his run for the top is over. He is a gifted, smooth rider, and he
    can ride MotoGP and finish in the top 10 until he chooses to given his
    reserve of riding ability, but I think his time as number 2 is over, and
    that now other guys are firmly moving into that space. I kind of wish Biaggi
    would have won a top class title before riding off into the sunset. Well,
    his career isn't over yet, one never knows with swansongs...
    I was thinking the same thing, instinctively. I hear Checa is now *very*
    active on Spanish TV, which may mean he's now preparing his next step. My
    reservation is that I can not picture Capirossi and Biaggi in the same team,
    their rivarly is just as deep seated -and perhaps more so- than Max-vs-Vale
    ever was.
    Yeah, this year strikes me like that. Biaggi is a superstar in Italy, and he
    is lucky to be able to be able to choose to retire anytime he chooses to
    with his fans' respect intact. Whatever he chooses to do, Biaggi has had an
    awesome career, and is able to dictate his future. His newfound mellowness
    could make him a highly coveted GP insider for coverage. He is a smart
    cookie, and his communication (some would say manipulative) ability is tops.
    Then again, I am not ready to write him off quite yet. Still too solidly and
    conistently embedded in the top 5.
    Yes, I give Edwards a good chance to win. Rossi would probably back off for
    2nd if Edwards is as halfway as hot as he was in Laguna. And Edwards seems
    to truly like Donington, he really gave Gibernau a scare last year, and
    perhaps it was even team orders kicking in, who knows -Edwards looked *very*
    good last year in the 2nd half of the race. Something about Donington vibes
    with him. he looked strong and confident all weekend this year, too. He is a
    top candidate. Makes me fantasize about Rossi taking a new challenge
    somewhere else, and Edwards finallly being a true number one. Edwards at
    this point comes acroos as under-rated. I know I did at times. He seems damn
    solid when he gets comfortable on a bike - he did last year later in the
    season, and even more so this year. I am an Edwards believer. With a change
    in paddock order, he probably would be Rossi's strongest challenger right
    now.

    ....pablo
     
    pablo, Jul 24, 2005
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  5. Julian Bond

    Julian Bond Guest

    Rossi would probably back off? You have to be kidding.
    I seem to have been watching Edwards at Donington forever. I remember
    sitting above the Esses during a second WSB race and watching Edwards on
    the Yamaha closely through binoculars. Every single time on the exit,
    he'd spin up the back tyre and it would step out 6" and just touch the
    white line. The consistency and control were awesome. Now it's what? 10
    years later? He's had a lot of track time at Donington, all on 4
    strokes, and the track has hardly changed during that time.
    Edwards is a damn fine rider, but I think he's reached his limit and
    it's a fraction below what's required to win MotoGP. The reason for
    thinking that is his excuses after Assen and Laguna which are really
    just the same as we've heard before. He gets to the point where he can't
    push any harder, but there's somebody in front who's still pulling away.

    As for Biaggi, it's entirely possible that he wins a race and finishes
    second in the championship this year. That makes for a touch choice for
    Honda. But even if he can keep giving them that, eventually they have to
    take a chance on somebody new, because otherwise they can't win.
     
    Julian Bond, Jul 24, 2005
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  6. Julian Bond

    pablo Guest

    As if the championship needed to be sealed, Rossi wins [again]. Awesome ride
    and second place for.... Roberts!? Which makes me think Mark may for once
    think rain races count for something. :) It actusally was quite an
    entertaining race, with huge saves from what seemed sure crashes by Rossi
    and Roberts, and Hopkins, too (who finally chucked it but rejoined to win
    some points). Then Barros completes the podium. Edwards, obviously not as
    strong on a wet Donington as we thought he'd be, follows in fourth, and the
    Ducatis of Checa and Capirossi.

    Biaggi crashes out early. Hayden, too. Melandri now with a non-finish 2 race
    streak, his early consistency gone. Gibernau once more falls off while in
    the lead trying to get away from Rossi. Entertaining fencing for first
    between Barros, Roberts and Rossi before Rossi breaks free. Hopkins mixed it
    up front for a while, too.

    Entertaining race.

    ....pablo
     
    pablo, Jul 24, 2005
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  7. Julian Bond

    pablo Guest

    The only exciting thing in the second half of the season will be to witness
    the battle for 2nd. I think some racers are quite motivated to establish
    they're second behind Rossi. Anyone who's in the 2nd to 7th position could
    be the number 2. So is it going to be the "new guard" (Melandri, Hayden) or
    the old guard (Gibernau, Biaggi, Barros, Edwards)? Let the predictions
    begin, because it seems this is the only thing that'll keep us entertained
    now...
     
    pablo, Jul 24, 2005
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