Donington/coming "out" party?

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Racing' started by T3, Jul 23, 2004.

  1. T3

    T3 Guest

    I got up early and checked out FP1/Q1, looks like Nicky was right, there is
    "more to come." Though, if the weather holds as predicted, I wouldn't be
    surprise to see somebody in the 28`s tomorrow but he was the "man" today.
    With just over a minute left in Q1 he goes out and "smokes" the field, I
    think he's finally figuring it out!! Almost .5 better than anybody else! ( I
    can't recall that happening before) Just about everyone here has predicted
    that Hayden would win one this year. Is it this weekend? How about Colin?(at
    the top all day) He has a history of doing "quite well" at Donington. IMHO
    all he need's this weekend is a decent starting slot. Are Loris and Carlos
    going to be there at the end, they looked strong today...
    It's time for the Duc boy's to make a move, silly season soon..

    If Vale can put himself between Max an Sete and the top of the box, it's as
    good as a win...Let the Honda guys beat up on each other, as long as Vale
    doesn't "allow" any one rider to start a streak he'll more than likely
    repeat.

    Donington is one of the toughest venues, it appears that it's one place no
    one can have it all. It's either "ponies" or cornering, (exit speed)
    picking the "right" tires to match the conditions helps too, duh....
    KRJR/Tamada where are those killer `Stone Q's?
    This might be a "dogfight." We'll see.......

    T3

    BTW- Max, get it together, didn't you win it last year? One more thing,
    don't believe all the B/S, Repsol guy's get the best stuff first, don't ever
    doubt it............
     
    T3, Jul 23, 2004
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    pablo Guest

    Hayden... awesome. Yet another warning shot. He has established himself
    solidly among the elite, and it'd be *great* to have another rider that
    contests for spot number 1 on a regular basis in MotoGP.

    That said, the fact that Capirossi is near the top might indicate times are
    going to come down tomorrow and things might settle into the "regular"
    pattern, but hopefully not. Donnington is a fun circuit.

    One thing I've got to admit about Checa is he's got balls. Considering he
    nearly died by a whisker in that circuit... I know there's turns I never
    push again after a little wobbly scare. Then again, that's why I've got a
    regular job...

    Tomorrow would be interesting - it'd be *great* to see hings turned upside
    down a little.It'd be even better if the second half of the season sees
    other guys closing the points gap as the current leaders start to think more
    tactically... things may then get awesome towards the end.

    ....pablo
     
    pablo, Jul 24, 2004
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    T3 Guest

    It wouldn't surprise me at all to see exactly that happen, there is a
    "boatload" of talent in GP that has yet to shine. Though I'd expect Rossi to
    be somewhere in the mix. I didn't realize Nicky knocked almost 1.5 off the
    lap record, even with a new surface, that's impressive.. Will we see mid
    28's tomorrow? It could happen.

    T3
     
    T3, Jul 24, 2004
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    Julian Bond Guest

    Donington has 2 corners that favour the brave.

    Craner curves is absolutely terrifying. It's pretty much full throttle
    downhill and in the middle at 140 or so you have to switch direction,
    move from one of the side of the track to the other and aim for a blind
    apex. It nearly killed Checa and crashes there tend to be huge. Ukawa
    got the bike as high in the air as we've ever seen one go. It's the
    corner that turned Schwantz into a hero for me in the Transatlantic
    races when he tried to pass Rainey, ran off onto the grass for 300
    yards, rejoined the track and then won.

    Schwantz curves follows the old Hairpin. It's effectively two left hand
    curves tied together where they're under maximum acceleration away from
    the old hairpin. The bike is leaned right over at 130 or so. Before the
    end of the second curve they have to start braking for what used to be a
    bumpy, blind off camber right.

    The car park section is Mickey Mouse compared with these but it gives
    ample opportunities to screw up. Most of the top riders have screwed up
    big time at the Esses, Melbourne and Goddards. From memory, Melandri,
    Biaggi, Edwards, (Doohan!) have all done it in races and Rossi in
    practice.

    The weather is going to be fine today. They're predicting cooler and
    overcast on Sunday with a slight chance of spots of rain in the late
    afternoon. But with the weird timing for the MotoGp race, that's exactly
    when it's running. I really hope it stays dry, not least because I'll be
    in the middle of it.
     
    Julian Bond, Jul 24, 2004
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    pablo Guest

    Followed this on the MotoGP site while on the stairmaster this morning.
    Couldn't resist!

    Not a surprise ending as far as the winner is concerned: Rossi clinches with
    start to finish with utter authority. 25 points, now ahead by over 20 points
    in the championship over his closest competitors for the title.

    Gibernau tried to hang with Rossi at first, but then must've had flashbacks
    to the last 2 races and decided to ride at a pace he felt more comfortable
    with. The only man other than Rossi who felt comfortable going faster was...
    Edwards! So there was a coming out party in Donington, but it was Edwards',
    who initially kept Rossi in his sight, but then also decided to ride at his
    own pace. Obviously, Edwards is not quite the odd man out in Camel Honda,
    since no one told him to slow down and let Gibernau clinch additional
    points. So Edwards now established himself as a solid fourth in the
    championship points, albeit at some distance from the first three.

    Biaggi's team must've screwed up back with his bike, because his riding
    genius wasn't able to compensate for everybody else's mistakes and he merely
    came in 12th. :) At least he takes home a few points and is right there
    with Gibernau points wise now.

    Gibernau probably would've wanted to relax towards the end, but had to put
    in a fast few rounds because Hayden came on like hellfire in the last few
    rounds, consistently being the fastest. Why didn't he do it earlier?
    Impressive run of good times, but since he chose to turn it up too late he
    came in 4th. But it is clear who HRC's real number 1 is, because Barros came
    in 9th.

    Bayliss and Capriossi managed to get decent stuff going for Ducati, 5th and
    7th respectively - good to see Ducati inching their way back. Checa places
    inbetween them.

    Then a performance that should not be overlooked: Hopkins comes in 8th on
    the Suzuki, ahead of Barros. Kenny Roberts doesn't manage to get into the
    points.

    And Hodgson manages a decent result on familiar ground, coming in 10th.
    Shakey Byrne also manages some points, coming in 13th.

    All in all, Edwards puts himself on the map. And that may mark the beginning
    of the end for Honda, since if Edwards becomes the third (or fourth, if we
    include Hayden) Honda rider at the very front, it potentially means fewer
    points for the riders that right now are closest to Rossi when going for the
    championship. It was a scenario that several of us predicted and now seems
    to be coming true: the phallanx of Honda riders fighting for points while
    Rossi consistently scores consistently. But then again, it's a scenario that
    seems possible because Rossi holds a slightly larger versatility and speed
    advantage against anyone else than the Honda riders hold among themselves:
    what we didn't quite predict was that Rossi would so consistently score at
    the top with the Yamaha, and in the end that would render any grand strategy
    by Honda a losing one.

    ....pablo
     
    pablo, Jul 25, 2004
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