Dominator vs Pegaso vs KLX650

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Jules, Oct 14, 2003.

  1. Jules

    Jules Guest

    Alrighty... let the debate begin ;-)

    Pegaso was my favorite initally, but I'm starting to hear too many horror
    stories about head gaskets, fork seals, rare parts - all the usual Italian
    bike stuff!

    Dominator looks very similar to the Peg, and is priced around the same. A
    little easier to find, but not that much easier.

    The KLX is the cheap-thrasher option. And there's a supermotarded one for
    sale near me which I'm checking out soon. I hear they're nigh-on
    bulletproof and good fun. Ugly as hell though ;-)

    BMWs are out of the picture currently as they appear not to be priced
    competitively.

    Any other suggestions / opinions?

    Jules
     
    Jules, Oct 14, 2003
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  2. Jules

    Smee Guest

    ktm?
    u should seriuosly consider the bmw tho because its initial cost maybe
    higher but the reliability factor then kicks in if thats what u r
    worried about.
     
    Smee, Oct 14, 2003
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  3. Jules

    Jules Guest

    Actually the BMW shares the Rotax engine that the Aprilia uses and is
    plaugued with the same problems.
     
    Jules, Oct 14, 2003
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  4. Jules

    Jules Guest

    Find me one for $6k!


     
    Jules, Oct 14, 2003
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  5. Get the best :

    Ducati Multistrada...

    CDIHL
     
    CAV.Dott.Ing.HatzOlah®, Oct 14, 2003
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  6. Jules

    Jules Guest

    I don't understant these road/trails,they are shit off road (forest heavy
    Maybe... but they're great over shitty roads, tram tracks, kerbs, and all
    the things I encounter most of my time riding.
     
    Jules, Oct 14, 2003
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  7. Woops,thought you where looking for new

    You can also search for a Cagiva Elephant

    $6k you can get a 600 Monster ,oldish SS or one of the pre Cagiva made
    Ducati's

    I don't understant these road/trails,they are shit off road (forest heavy
    type situation) and next to useless on the road,total compr.

    The Multistada is the RangeRover type and best of both world/s but @ $18k+
    not for dirt roads

    CDIHL
     
    CAV.Dott.Ing.HatzOlah®, Oct 14, 2003
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  8. Jules

    glitch1 Guest

    Ahhhh, Jules....
    You're reading too much stuff :)
    Warren's Peg's done 60-odd thousand , no probs.
    Gunthers 48K, no probs.
    Stef had a head-gasket at about 40k. Graham's Peg hasn't had a problem.
    Garry's the same.
    Yes, there are are some pegs with head-gasket probs, but it seems that most
    AREN'T affected.

    Forkseals are another thing, most pegs I know had the seals replaced, in our
    case more than once. Aprilia goofed up in the first place and used 52mmOD
    seals, then issued 52.2mmOD as OEM spares. Once those are used....
    Rare parts? nothing rare on the Pegs and even back-order items are at the
    dealers nowadays within 4 weeks tops.
    As you know, I've always had other bikes apart from the Pegs and haven't
    found the Pegs any harder to service/ look after than the others.
    Many wear-parts for the Pegs can be easily replaced with aftermarket stuff,
    which is easily available.
    It's also a bike that proves fairly cheap to fix in case of a drop, lights
    and fairing are less than half price of most other bikes.
    ALL big singles will loose bolts and nuts if not locktited together.

    Domi is a good one, old design but dependable, top-heavy, old-tech, hard to
    get onto a good, low-km item due to the couriers using them.
    Fairly heavy, not too many items obtainable through wreckers, expensive
    plastics and metal-tank (Peg has plastic Acerbis). Brakes are not too hot.
    Weak clutch is fairly common.

    The KLX....suit yourself on that one....old design, loose value fast,
    dirtbike heritage (not that it's bad, but shows on the road), flexi-frame,
    low built-quality, rough as guts compared to both others, no fairing, plenty
    of wrecker-spares around. As you said: cheap trasher !! which might cost
    more in the end than the 2 others. Was looking at one at the time when I was
    chasing a Cape-York bike, gave it a miss in favour of the XT6 instead.


    From a personal point:
    For me the peg3 cube ('98-2k model with the USD front) is the best of the
    trio (for the road), no doubt.
    The Domi is rougher and handles better in the dirt (21inch front wheel).
    The Peg is a modern bike, the chassis and USD front are a gem, the carbed
    engine is sweet and punchy, suspension is plush and compliant, brakes are
    bitey but not too vicious on the dirt.
    You're really comparing apples with oranges.
    Like lumping all 4cyl 600s built over the past 10 or so years into one
    basket.


    cheers
    pete
     
    glitch1, Oct 14, 2003
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  9. Jules

    Stuart Thyer Guest

    Transalp, of course. They're all a bit old nowdays but if you've only got
    $6k, you'll get a goodie for $4.5-5k. Spend the rest on the bits you want
    and away you go. There's a goodly number of TA's being actively ridden so no
    excuse not to get out and about.

    Stuart T
    '87 Transalp
     
    Stuart Thyer, Oct 14, 2003
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  10. Jules

    Jules Guest

    I do _want_ the peg. If you see one up for sale let me know.

    But one needs to have other options ;-)

    Jules
     
    Jules, Oct 14, 2003
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    sharkey Guest

    Do not under any circumstances buy an XLV 750.

    I'm looking for another one, and there's few enough of them about
    already, and I can't afford the price!

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, Oct 14, 2003
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  12. Jules

    glitch1 Guest

    Here's another one... :))
    http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/glitch1/Sale/page2.html

    How's the Peg in McCrae? Called the guy?
    or...
    Peg '99, black ,15.500km, topbox, panniers (OEM), tankbag, Ctr. stand
    (important), just serviced, new rear tyre, adjustable rear shock ($700
    option),
    rego ?? asking prc. 7900, 9233-4810 Melb.
     
    glitch1, Oct 14, 2003
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  13. Jules

    Nev.. Guest

    I think it's the rider not the bike which is deficient.

    Disclaimer:
    *based on the outrageous assumption that hatz has actually ridden one*

    Nev..
    goodbye Honda... hello Ducati
     
    Nev.., Oct 14, 2003
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  14. Jules

    glitch1 Guest

    Like you wouldn't understand a few other things....

    No, it ain't, a Rangie at least goes in the dirt.

    which worlds?
    with a 17"inch front and road-rubber it goes nowhere but down off sealed
    roads.
    cheers
    pete
     
    glitch1, Oct 14, 2003
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  15. On 14/10/03 9:48 AM, in article
    What age and price bracket are you looking at?

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Oct 14, 2003
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  16. Jules

    Jules Guest

    1993-2000

    $4k - $8k.

    Plenty of scope there :)
     
    Jules, Oct 14, 2003
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  17. On 14/10/03 4:35 PM, in article
    1995 TT600 Belgarda[1], staintune and rebuilt box?

    Hammo
    [1] you know the one, with all the Italian bits,
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Oct 14, 2003
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  18. Jules

    sharkey Guest

    :) I'd never say a thing like that.
    w00t. Which one? Sell me your blackbird ;-)

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, Oct 14, 2003
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  19. Jules

    Jules Guest

    $3000 according to the Redbook.

    Too cheap mate ;-)



     
    Jules, Oct 14, 2003
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  20. This is true,the guys i use to ride out bush and yonder would "smoke" me,i
    expected that, they are/where level 1 pro riders,in any case they only had to
    wait <1min for me to catch up,i never attempted to keep up seemed like very
    hard work to me..
    I have yet to ride a Ducati of any type,BUT they are after all just like any
    other piece of machinery,you know,combo of plastic/metal/rubber/chemical DNA
    etc
    That would be interesting,be like a breath of fresh air for ya,i rather a
    MvAgusta,you have to aim high(est)

    CDIHL
     
    Dott.Ing.HatzOlah®, Oct 14, 2003
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