Does anyone know a mechanically-minded midget contortionist?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by TMack, Jan 7, 2011.

  1. TMack

    TMack Guest

    Because I need to change the front dipped-beam headlight bulb in Helen's
    Citroen C3. I can just about get my hand behind the bulb holder, as long
    as I can put up with the battery-cover release lever stabbing the back of
    it. Removing the offending dud bulb and replacing it is another thing
    altogether. Apparently it can eventually be done - given enough time and
    determination. Other victims say that a mirror onna stick is a definite
    advantage.

    In my view any design, cage or bike, that makes it damned near impossible
    for the average owner to change a headlight bulb is grounds for castration
    of the offending designer.
     
    TMack, Jan 7, 2011
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    My Citroen van is a right bastard when it comes to changing headlight
    bulbs. The nearside one is ok if you use a mirror and a torch to see
    what you're doing but the offside one is a case of working blind
    because you can't even get a mirror and torch in there to see what
    you're doing.

    It'll be going to the garage next time it needs one.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jan 7, 2011
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    Krusty Guest

    Say no more - it's French. You're probably meant to remove the engine
    & gearbox first. Shame really as used C5s are amazing value, but the
    electrics are worse than Lucas or the Italians ever were, & the few
    jobs I did on the ex's Kangoo were enough to put me off French cars
    for life.
     
    Krusty, Jan 7, 2011
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    When I first saw K's Vecra, I was impressed at how roomy the engine
    bay was and how asy everything seemed to be to get at, though I never
    had to do anything except check the oil.

    Then an indicator blew. Then a headlight blew. **** nose how you get
    at the bulbs.
     
    Pip Luscher, Jan 7, 2011
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    boxerboy Guest

    Its not one of those like the Picasso where you are supposed to take
    the bloody bumper off / remove the wheel and whistle Handle's Water
    Music just to replace the bulb is it?

    As you say a suitable punishment needs to be found

    Boxerboy
     
    boxerboy, Jan 7, 2011
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    R C Nesbit Guest

    TMack spoke:
    Similar on the Alfa 156 - I was reccomended to just wait for the next
    service and let the garage worry about it, however it turned out to be not
    *that* difficult, once you figured it out (and grew some extra-long triple
    jointed fingers)

    My old Jeep Cherokee OTOH, required partial dismangling of the entire front
    wing from the outside to get at any of the bulbs. First time I did it it
    was a 2 hours job, in the snow!

    --
    Rob_P
    UKRM(at)indqualtec.co.uk
    uppercase(d) BBIWYMC#1 BOG#11? MRO#31 IBCDBBB#1(kotl)
    FJ1200, CCM130 Benelli Cabriolet (gone)
    Looks like Rab C Nesbit.
     
    R C Nesbit, Jan 7, 2011
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    antonye Guest

    On our BMW Barge-O-Matic, to replace the front indicator
    bulbs you have to take the indicator out. To take the
    indicator out, you have to take the headlight out. To
    take the headlight out, you have to remove about 3 acres
    of plastic sheeting first. Only then do you realise that
    they're some special design bulbs that only BMW stock,
    and you have to put everything back together to drive
    to the dealer to get them.

    DAMHIK,IJD,OK?
     
    antonye, Jan 7, 2011
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    zymurgy Guest

    heh. The Kangoo uses the same engine as the Clio, but the Clio has a
    smaller engine bay.

    The auxiliary drive belt tensioner is an absolute swine to get to, you
    need hands the size of a childs to get in there.

    Where's Oskar Schindler when you need him ..

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Jan 7, 2011
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  9. Our neighbour has one and the electrical system has driven him (and
    several garages) nuts.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 7, 2011
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  10. On the late unlamented Primera, the right-hand bulb was a bastard
    because the windscreen washer filler got in the way until I realised
    that some unsung hero at Nissan had made it detachable via a snap-lock,
    precisely so you could gain access to the bulbs.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 7, 2011
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    Krusty Guest

    If it was a 2001 or earlier, you were doing something very, very
    wrong.
     
    Krusty, Jan 7, 2011
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    Eiron Guest

    Volvo - open bonnet, pull locking pin, remove headlight assembly, change
    bulb,
    replace headlight assembly, insert pin, close bonnet.
    It takes about as long as it did to read this.
    Just one of the benefits of getting old. :)
     
    Eiron, Jan 7, 2011
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    Gyp Guest

    The ones on my octavia are a right bastard. To do the bulbs you have take
    out the whole headlight and that takes almost a minute to achieve.

    Thinking back I think the phrase I was looking for was a well thought out
    solution, not a right bastard.
     
    Gyp, Jan 7, 2011
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    R C Nesbit Guest

    Krusty spoke:
    It was 199-something. This included removing the bull-bars before getting at
    the headlight.

    There was absolutely no way to get at the bulbs from under the bonnet.

    --
    Rob_P
    UKRM(at)indqualtec.co.uk
    uppercase(d) BBIWYMC#1 BOG#11? MRO#31 IBCDBBB#1(kotl)
    FJ1200, CCM130 Benelli Cabriolet (gone)
    Looks like Rab C Nesbit.
     
    R C Nesbit, Jan 7, 2011
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    Krusty Guest

    Ah, that's a bit different then - aftermarket accessory init. Still
    don't see where the front wing comes into though, you just have to
    remove the corner reflector & its plastic surround.
    Indeed, but it doesn't take more than a few minutes to pop the lights
    out the front (if there isn't a bull-bar in the way).
     
    Krusty, Jan 7, 2011
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    Zeb Johnson Guest

    (Krusty) said


    Say no more - it's French. You're probably meant to remove the engine &
    gearbox first. Shame really as used C5s are amazing value, but the
    electrics are worse than Lucas or the Italians ever were, & the few jobs
    I did on the ex's Kangoo were enough to put me off French cars for life.

    Not just French cars
    Nissan just as bad--I bruse easy so
    i gave up and got some1 else to
    put it in
     
    Zeb Johnson, Jan 7, 2011
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  17. Wotcha.
    VW { work's }Caddy van.
    Warning light on dashboard tells me I have a brake light bulb gone.
    Phone work to tell 'em I'll change the bulb and bung the receipt in with my
    timesheets.
    The gaffer tells me to take it to the garage because you need the special VW
    tool in order to take the rear light lens out . . . . he was bloody right
    too. Seems a waste of time carrying one of those bulb kits that you seem to
    need when travelling in foreign parts - do you have to carry a VW trained
    mechanic as well ?
     
    ^..^ Lone Wolf, Jan 8, 2011
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    petrolcan Guest

    Remember who you're replying to.
     
    petrolcan, Jan 8, 2011
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    TMack Guest

    How are you getting on? Able to walk properly yet?
     
    TMack, Jan 8, 2011
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    Owen Guest

    Back in my panel-beating days I can remember cars where it was easier
    to slacken-off the headlight bolts, move the whole assembly just to
    change the bulbs and progress seems to make that more common...

    I think part of the problem is that manufacturers figure that the
    components are more reliable, so bulbs shouldnt need changing so
    often... But now I work with children and animals, so what do I
    know...
     
    Owen, Jan 8, 2011
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