Do you remember that chap Merlin.....

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Kevin Lambert, Nov 7, 2003.

  1. ......who was going to tell us how he got on with his appeal against his
    speeding conviction and never did? It appears that the magistrates upped
    the fixed penalty to a £100 fine and threw in £450 costs for good measure.
    Read all about it (if you can be bothered) at:

    http://icnorthwales.icnetwork.co.uk/news/regionalnews/page.cfm?objectid=1357
    7630&method=full&siteid=50142
     
    Kevin Lambert, Nov 7, 2003
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  2. Kevin Lambert

    Nigel Eaton Guest

    Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Kevin Lambert
    *Snort*. What a *total* wanker. He'll make a great lawyer.
     
    Nigel Eaton, Nov 7, 2003
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  3. ****. nowhere near enough in the way of punishment.
     
    Doesnotcompute, Nov 7, 2003
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  4. Kevin Lambert

    Klaatu Guest

    Yep.

    Hah !

    Mather, of Brynmor Drive in Flint, challenged the accuracy of the
    machine and its use and said a mobile telephone in the police vehicle
    at the time could have affected it.

    Tosser.

    And to cap it :
    After the hearing Mather said he would not be appealing because he
    wished to concentrate on his law exams.

    Gawd help us.
     
    Klaatu, Nov 7, 2003
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  5. Kevin Lambert

    Ginge Guest

    "After the hearing Mather said he would not be appealing because he
    wished to concentrate on his law exams."

    *snort*

    fantastic.
     
    Ginge, Nov 7, 2003
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  6. Kevin Lambert

    Sean Doherty Guest

    Hello, is that the OED? I think I have the definitive definition of
    /schadenfreude/.
     
    Sean Doherty, Nov 7, 2003
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  7. Kevin Lambert

    YTC#1 Guest

    That makes me smile, I thought he was a smug self obsessed git.
     
    YTC#1, Nov 7, 2003
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  8. Kevin Lambert

    sweller Guest


    The website seems to be having difficulties, or at least I can't access
    it ATM, any chance of a cut and paste?
     
    sweller, Nov 7, 2003
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  9. sweller wrote:


    Speed charge upheld at trial

    Oct 31 2003

    Flintshire Chronicle


    A MATURE law student had to pay dearly when he sought to challenge a
    speeding charge.

    James Stuart Mather, 52, had originally claimed he could not be
    convicted of breaking a 30mph speed limit in Northop Road, Flint,
    because the signs were invalid.

    It was claimed the case could reopen the cases of hundreds of other
    motorists and was compared to a case where speeding charges against two
    West Yorkshire police officers had been thrown out.

    But it all came crashing down about his ears when Mather, who had
    refused to accept a £60 fixed penalty ticket, was convicted and ended up
    with a £550 bill.

    Originally, he had claimed that the shape and colour of the 30mph signs
    were wrong.

    But before his trial started at Flintshire Magistrates Court at Mold
    today he conceded the speed restriction was in order and that evidence
    which the prosecution wished to use was admissible.

    But he challenged the prosecution over the use and accuracy of the LTi
    20.20 laser speed detection device used by the Arrive Alive campaign.

    Mather was convicted of driving at 41mph in a 30mph area and was fined
    £100 with £450 costs.

    Prosecutor Gerallt Evans said he relied on the evidence of PC Harvey
    Seddon, an experienced officer, who initially formed the opinion that
    Mather's Mondeo car was breaking the limit. When PC Seddon used the
    approved speed detection device it showed the car was travelling at 41mph.

    Mather, of Brynmor Drive in Flint, challenged the accuracy of the
    machine and its use and said a mobile telephone in the police vehicle at
    the time could have affected it.

    PC Seddon said there was a mobile telephone more than two metres away
    but if there had been any interference with the machine it would have
    aborted.

    He agreed that later guidance from the Association of Chief Police
    Officers now said all mobile telephones should be switched off during
    speed detection monitoring.

    After the hearing Mather said he would not be appealing because he
    wished to concentrate on his law exams.
     
    Doesnotcompute, Nov 7, 2003
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  10. All of which just goes to show that it does to pay to listen to our more
    friendly janitors when they tell you how the courts work.

    It isn't very often that I laugh at other's misfortune but this idiot
    deserved everything he had thrown at him.
     
    Paul Corfield, Nov 7, 2003
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  11. Kevin Lambert

    sweller Guest

    Turned out the problem was my end and the router had had a hizzy fit (I
    thought I'd deleted that post from the queue).

    Thanks both Dnc and Wizard.
     
    sweller, Nov 7, 2003
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  12. "After the hearing Mather said he would not be appealing because he
    wished to concentrate on his law exams."


    Bwahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

    --

    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6? DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#16? FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Nov 8, 2003
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  13. Kevin Lambert

    Steve Parry Guest

    So does this mean all those old mobile phones hanging around the house
    could form the basis of a speed check blocking device :eek:) ??

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    Steve Parry

    http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk

    http://wrexhamseals.tripod.com
     
    Steve Parry, Nov 8, 2003
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  14. dunno, but apparently mobiles also interfered with those digital
    breathalysers.

    Or so the nice officer told me when I was blowing into a tube of
    crystals with a bag on the end. I naturally asked when they'd catch up
    and get the proper gear ;)
     
    Doesnotcompute, Nov 8, 2003
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  15. Kevin Lambert

    Steve Morgan Guest

    It's not a Belkin, by any chance?
     
    Steve Morgan, Nov 8, 2003
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  16. Kevin Lambert

    sweller Guest

    Netgear, covered in books. I think it may have got a bit warm...
     
    sweller, Nov 8, 2003
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  17. The guy got the whole thing screwed wrong approach.
    There is *so* much evidence about the failings of this equipment
    available.
    When are the UK police going to throw away the LT1 20.20 . The majority
    of other police forces have stopped using them due to inaccuracies with
    hand held use and the problem they have with the triple LED source
    leading to incorrect target acquisition..
     
    Mick Whittingham, Nov 8, 2003
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  18. Kevin Lambert

    Wik Guest

    *splutter*

    What?! No, no! Let them keep it...

    Schtum.
    --
    | Wik -UKRMHRC#10- 2000 ZX12R-A1 -DC#1 -'FOT#0 'FOF #39 - BOD#12 BOB#12
    |# You don't believe me | "Experience is the worst teacher.
    |That the scenery | It always gives the test first
    |Could be a cold-blooded killer. | and the instruction afterward."
    ***** human response from wik at blueyonder dot co dot uk *****
     
    Wik, Nov 8, 2003
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  19. Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote
    That is a shame.

    I went and had a look at the thread when you first mentioned it but have
    not been back since. Seems to me that if they have come back and done
    the mea culpa bit then they should be treated with good grace. Not
    doing so rather makes the denizens of nanae wankers of the first order.
     
    steve auvache, Nov 8, 2003
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  20. Kevin Lambert

    Wik Guest

    I'd agree...
    *cough*

    Nanae often makes this place look positively fluffy.

    --
    | Wik -UKRMHRC#10- 2000 ZX12R-A1 -DC#1 -'FOT#0 'FOF #39 - BOD#12 BOB#12
    |# You don't believe me | "Experience is the worst teacher.
    |That the scenery | It always gives the test first
    |Could be a cold-blooded killer. | and the instruction afterward."
    ***** human response from wik at blueyonder dot co dot uk *****
     
    Wik, Nov 8, 2003
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