Do they think we're morons?

Verdigris wrote

Very few.

There is a long way to go yet and plenty of time for it all to fall
apart, especially for the I heart Gordon and Tony brigade. They are the
ones with the most to lose.

If I lived in one of these marginals where postal votes are being made
headlines about, I might pay a different type attention to that which I
can do from a safe Tory seat for example.

The jockish gnats make a very good point that neither of the main two
campaign in the regions, theirs in particular, on regional matters.
Labour can ill afford to go the same way as the Tories have already done
in Scotland.

 

Verdigris wrote

This is pretty much what they say and they also say that a number of
matters the tories and nu labour are flogging as local are in fact
regional and already out of Westminster's control.

 

How many days ago was this then ?

 

Of course ... £240

The IR seem primarily interested in getting it right

That's what's important to them, they have their rules and they stick to
them - the bottom line is what's important to them i.e. that it's
correct, that's all

I'm still working on that

 

Not Egyptian ?

 

Which, lets face it, really isn't going to happen, is it ?

There really isn't anything left of the dogma known as xtianity, it's an
empty shell. The world has moved on

 

Well, I've been banned from the kitchen for putting pork mince in the
chilli con carne, and have got one sprog to renounce Islam

 

Really ?

There seem to be a number of people who seem incapable of letting go of
xtian / jewish [1] preconceptions

[1] old testament

 

And this means that enough people have given up with the system and a
fundamental change is required

 

You're confusing what the dominant political parties have to offer with
a true democratic choice

They really are not the same thing

 

Why, then, is UKRM so soft, cuddly and gentle towards those who
believe that they've been born into a wrongly-gendered body? I mean,
that's about as far as you can fucking get from conventional wisdom.

 

So get off your arse and start a campaign to action that fundamental
change, rather than sitting there whining about how nobody else has
got off *their* arse.

Unless you expect inaction to prompt change, in which case you're a
complete lemon.

 

raden wrote

Attractive stuff innit.

An eye for an eye, shag your brothers sister rotten after he is dead and
gone. That is the sort of thing that would have appealed to RA readers
back in the good old days when civilisation meant being living in a tent
in a desert and not eating meat until you paid the vicar a tenner to
pronounce it clean and holy. Sadly, although civilisation has moved on
and now we can have our meat as infected as we like for twice the money
and no religious interference, the eye for an eye bit and doing the
dutiful thing to widows is still as attractive as ever it was.

 

When beliefs are spouted, then there has to be line of logic or
argument (one hopes) which led to them being there. These arguments,
or assumptions, can be challenged and held up to scrutiny. A good bit
of scrutiny never did anyone any harm

On the gender issue, this is more personal. It isn't (I imagine) a
line of logic which takes people there, but their feelings about
things. You can't argue with that.

You can express a view about the 'normality' of it, or the
desirability, but not much more.

--
John

SV 650
Black it is
And Naked

 

Hooligan wrote

I dunno you kiddies just don't know what you are missing do you? I
liked the good old days. There was room in our lives for blind
unreasoning prejudice back then.

 

Oh, it seems there still is.

That's when the fun starts.

--
John

SV 650
Black it is
And Naked

 

Brother.

 

I wouldn't know where to start

 

Ho ho. Ho.