Do they think we're morons?

I get hard just think about it.

 

Here. Just skipping over this argument because it's boring.

 

I'd rather not.

 

More likely

Labour 3005
Conservative 35205 (it IS Billericay, after all)
Liberal Democrat 12743
British National Party 5345
UK Independence 7234
Local crazy wacko party 15236

etc, etc. Why assume that everyone who's forced to vote will spoil
their paper? Most of them won't even realise that's an option, so
they'll "waste" their vote another way. Do you want to run the risk
of UKIP, the BNP or the local crazy wackos getting seats just beause
somebody was forced to vote?

 

Good choice.

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John

SV650
Black it is
and naked

 

You get on t'interweb and use it as a means to try and put together
a party that matches your own personal ideology. You work with it
until you have candidates across the country, and you *are* the
viable alternative. If it's so viable, you can't go wrong.

Imagine if there was a "whinging idiots who can't be arsed to get off
their arse and change that to which they fundamentally object" party.
It'd win every seat by a huge majority.

 

My own view here, is that it would be better to go and vote for your
preferred option anyway. How do you know how many other's there are who
might vote that way if they thought there was a chance. Your vote is
one more towards them becoming viable.

Also, intent is registered, which whilst not counting for much, accounts
for something. I would rather engage at all possible points than havve
my views go entirely unnoticed.

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John

SV650
Black it is
and naked

 

Quite. If more people voted for what they wanted, rather than siding
with whichever of the big boys they thought was least unpalatable,
it might become more of a three horse race. Next time round, with a
viable third option, more people might take the same path.

Sheep never changed anything.

 

platypus wrote:

I shall read that later.

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John

SV650
Black it is
and naked

 

No, it *really* doesn't.

 

the cont known as porl says...

IMO, it does.

 

So what you going to do? Refuse to listen to my whinging, and instead listen
to anyone who did vote, despite them maybe being a window licker? It's a
ridiculous criterium [nods to Ivor].

 

Isn't not voting in itself a statement of voting preference? Therefore
those who do not vote (here's the tricky bit filtering out the lazy
cunts who can't be bothered) retain the right to complain by the simple
expedient that the ballot for does not contain a "none of the above"
option. So if you don't wish to vote you should turn-up and spoil the
ballot form.

 

That's apart from most of the week just past is it?

 

Spoiling the form does nothing to help at all. Having been involved at
counts many times, spoiled papers are scruted by the candidates to see
if there is any agreement as to who the voter intended to vote for, but
that's it.

Generally papers are considered to have been spoiled by window lickers
and people too stupid to vote. If you want to make a change then get
involved - stand for local govt or parliament and start doing all the
things you think you can do better. If you are right you'll soon have
a majority government.

 

Ah, but man is fallible. Therefore man may at various times and
simultaneously (there being so many of mankind) come to differing
conclusions of God's plan. This is clearly demonstrated by the different
denominations within the global Christian church. Sadly leading to, in
extremis, shouts of "I am right and you are wrong". Yet alone people who
view creation from another faith or no faith at all. So can I ask how
you know that your response to exclude yourself from the voting process
is the right thing to do? Could this not lead to a hypothetical
situation of a new Hitler getting power because of all the abstentions
on religious grounds, i.e. you let the evil bastard in by inaction?

Actually I think you may be wrong. If the Almighty gave man a spirit of
discernment and a reasoning mind then are you not offending God by
misuse of His gifts?

 

err confused here??? It's early in the morning [1] and I am playing
catch-up on this thread. Let me get more coffee and some food

[1] It's been a long week and I had a nice long snooze this morning and
a real ale festival last night.

 

I too have been involved in counting at elections. I disagree with you.
The argument is about whether non-votes have a right (moral or legal) to
whinge over a pint about the current occupiers of government. I am
fairly sure that if the spoilt pile had more than the usual 20 or 30
papers but had 2,000 then it'd grab attention of all involved, specially
so if it was universally repeated at each polling station.

I look forward to you losing your deposit. The "window lickers" normally
respond to the sound bite spin doctoring they are force-fed by the
media. Don't believe me? Try tuning into a local radio station mid-week
afternoon phone-in.

I suspect part of the malaise is that most MPs and candidates are now
automata controlled by a select-few. Gone are the days when the party
allowed members to speak their own mind and thereby add some spice to
the whole.

 

I think Bremner's unique among TV impressionists, in that he doesn't
feel the need to tell you who he "is" in the opening line of the
sketch. cf. A McGowan, J Culshaw, etc.

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But a Christian should help the plan to fruition, so therefore should go
a put a cross in the box that the spirit directs the believer towards.