DMV SKILL TEST

Discussion in 'Bay Area Bikers' started by Michael Glover, Aug 19, 2003.

  1. Spoke with true ignorance Pete. I'm not sure who you are really talking
    to in this post. Are you calling me an asshole because I ride a Hog?
    First off read the posts. I don't ride a hog. :p

    -Steve
     
    Steve Johnson, Aug 27, 2003
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  2. oh, goodie, I have a wingman now!
     
    Jason O'Rourke, Aug 27, 2003
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  3. yeah, I don't like selfish freeloaders.
    Hey, I'm not necessarily targetting everyone that has ever modified
    their bike. It is possible to ride even those fat pigs without being
    as ass. But certainly the ones I'm talking about have chosen to be
    noticed.

    Performance boosting may be a valid justification. I feel for you
    guys at Laguna Seca, though. But let's not mince words - most of the
    Harley guys got the loud pipes because they want to be loud. (If they
    wanted performance, they should have gotten a Honda)
     
    Jason O'Rourke, Aug 27, 2003
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  4. Michael Glover

    Rich Guest

    Whether or not Barbz likes to argue, I see the point she's making:
    there's almost always going to be space between cars in a given lane.
    Riding on a multilane road, I try to position myself so that I am next
    to one of those spaces in the nearest adjacent lane rather than next
    to one of the cars. It's rather like the pattern of checkers.

    To the extent that I can do that, my headlight (modulated or
    otherwise) is more likely to be visible to the cars that I'm counting
    on to stay out of my way if I need to make an emergency lane change.
    R, UB
     
    Rich, Aug 27, 2003
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  5. Michael Glover

    Rich Guest

    Maybe it's a function of who the waver is. I wave at pretty much
    everyone, unless I think that my left hand has to be on the bar at
    that moment Most people wave back -- some don't. I can't say that
    I've seen much of a correlation between what the wavee is riding and
    whether they return the wave.

    My hypothesis is that I get the result I do because I'm a late
    middle-aged guy riding a middle-of-the road bike and wearing moderate
    amounts of protective gear. If I conformed more closely to either the
    hog or sportbiker ideal, I'd expect a different reception.



    R, UB
     
    Rich, Aug 27, 2003
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  6. Michael Glover

    Rich Guest

    There are paintings on my walls, which represent the ultimate valuing
    of form over function. We're not talking space shuttle, where every
    bit of engineering skill needs to be dedicated to performance.
    There's room for compromise in motorcycles, and if a Fat Boy gives you
    orgasms, ride it.
    R, UB
     
    Rich, Aug 27, 2003
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  7. Yep.. I agree.. But in the case of Barbz, she was just playing dumb to
    bait me into arguing with her =) I've basicly decided to bail out of
    this thread. When it comes to name calling and such, there is no point
    in trying to keep the discussion going.

    -Steve
     
    Steve Johnson, Aug 27, 2003
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  8. Bravo!

    -Steve
     
    Steve Johnson, Aug 27, 2003
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  9. But if your straight pipes are a significant disruption, may the CHP
    bless and ticket ya!
     
    Nicholas C. Weaver, Aug 27, 2003
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  10. Michael Glover

    barbz Guest

    Heh, righty! I'm jealous.

    barbz
     
    barbz, Aug 27, 2003
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  11. Michael Glover

    barbz Guest

    I think you need more hours on the road.

    barbz
     
    barbz, Aug 27, 2003
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  12. Michael Glover

    barbz Guest

    You assumed I am where now? Gee, what is this 'freeway' of which you
    speak? Something like the things that run like major clogged arteries
    through California? Nope, never heard of them. I've never seen one in
    San Diego, you foolish person. And somehow I've managed to ride for
    almost thirty years without encountering one. </sarcasm>

    It seems you are taking my comments on the Brotherhood of Profiling
    Harley Drivers a wee bit personally. Hit a nerve, hmmm? Or was it my
    inquiry into your freeway riding skills? Hey, you want to ride
    sidebyside in one lane, fine with me. You want to pace cars, go right
    ahead. But don't tell me that you can't influence your position on the
    freeway plane by adjusting your riding, because you can and should.
    If you point your bike in one direction and just putt along at the only
    speed you know, the fact that you're still alive to post here is sheer
    luck. Maybe you should go riding with Michael Glover. He has his own
    unique ideas about the value of riding skills too.

    barbz
     
    barbz, Aug 27, 2003
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  13. Michael Glover

    barbz Guest

    Ummm...I'm a middle-aged female riding an old BMW rat bike, and I get
    waved at by sportbikers alla time. I wave back when I'm not busy.

    barbz
     
    barbz, Aug 27, 2003
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  14. Michael Glover

    barbz Guest

    Baiting you? Playing dumb? Wooo, pot, kettle, black! But I *don't* think
    you're playing...
    barbz
     
    barbz, Aug 27, 2003
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  15. I sure hope I don't meet you on the streets, because if you attitude is
    anything like what I see here, I'm sure squid is the first thought that
    would come to my mind.

    I'm done talking with you Barbz.

    -Steve
     
    Steve Johnson, Aug 27, 2003
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  16. Michael Glover

    hpjeannie Guest

    Is that the reason you posted on 8/10 asking to borrow a smaller bike
    so you could pass the test because you couldn't pass it on your
    Harley? Oy.
     
    hpjeannie, Aug 27, 2003
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  17. Michael Glover

    Rich Guest

    On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 20:02:03 +0000 (UTC),
    Hey, Nick, not even my pipes are straight. ;-}

    As to noise, my 82 Virago is among the quieter bikes on the road. I
    was distressed the last time I took it in for service and they
    returned it pointing out there was a small leak in the gasket on the
    muffler that they didn't bother to fix. The bike is noisier than it
    was, but still at least one standard deviation quieter than the
    average bike on the street. They *wil*l fix it next time the bike
    needs service.


    R, UB
     
    Rich, Aug 27, 2003
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  18. Michael Glover

    mike Guest

    Yebbut he just went down in flames.

    --
    Mike

    I didn't crash, there was a sudden burst of gravity.

    icq - 219328929
     
    mike, Aug 28, 2003
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  19. Yeah, the problem is people use this as a rationalization/excuse for
    anti-social behavior. As such, the truth is seldom an obstacle.

    Hooking up a sound meter and camera and showing that "no, you don't
    hear CruiserSquid on the freeway until he's passed you" would not help
    convince the "Loud Pipes Save Lives" crowd of anything.
     
    Nicholas C. Weaver, Aug 28, 2003
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  20. It may have been in MCN that one such test was done - well, just from one
    position. I was somewhat distrustful of it when a stock harley matched up
    with a BMW.

    Empirically you can get a lot of the results yourself just by standing
    at a good intersection, or perhaps up at Alice's. Somewhat skewed there
    of course since people do all sorts of crazy shit for the audience.
     
    Jason O'Rourke, Aug 28, 2003
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