DIY tire changing sites?

Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by TI, Oct 27, 2004.

  1. TI

    Champ Guest

    The last couple of seasons I've been able to take my race wheels to
    the local dealer, and they let me use their pukka tyre changing
    machine. Like many things, when you've got the right tools it's
    almost a pleasure to do.
     
    Champ, Oct 29, 2004
    #21
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  2. TI

    Lozzo Guest

    Champ says...
    I do my own when I take my wheels into my mate's place. I enjoy it too.
     
    Lozzo, Oct 29, 2004
    #22
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  3. TI

    ts Guest

    Soap, hmmm - where did I read that washing-up liquid detergents also
    contain salts (which may cause corrosion). Anyhow, those concerned about
    corrosion may use a few drops of glycerol on the edge of the tyre. It's
    also fairly viscous and stays in place.

    Leather patches - leftovers from saddle makers, or others in the
    upholstry business - are fine to use between the levers and rim to avoid
    scratches. Textiles are too soft.

    I have no problems with fitting new tyres at home (levers etc.), but
    find it difficult to get the newly fitted tyre edges in place onto the
    rim flanges. Petrol station air lines are useless, also some car-tyre
    shops do not have the required air pressure for the job. It feels stupid
    taking the newly fitted tyre/wheel to a dealer and letting him charge
    you a fiver to blow it onto place.

    Further tips on the latter invited.
     
    ts, Oct 29, 2004
    #23
  4. TI

    Lozzo Guest

    Mark says...
    Butane gas from a small canister (lighter refill bottle). Squirt in the
    tyre well and throw a match at it. Works for the Icelanders when they
    dislodge tyres on their 4x4s out on the ice packs.
     
    Lozzo, Oct 30, 2004
    #24
  5. TI

    Andy Clews Guest

    Thus spake sweller unto the assembled multitudes:
    Second-to-last time I removed a tyre was for a 250 Superdream in the mid
    1980s. Had ridden up to my parents in Shropshire and had picked up a slow
    puncture just before I arrived (didn't notice till next morning). Went out
    and bought a new tube as the old one already had a repair. Partly inflated
    the tube before beading in the tyre with a couple of big levers. Just as I
    was levering over the last bead I heard a "psssss...." as the new tube got
    pinched by the lever. First time I'd said "bollocks!" in front of my dad,
    which made him laugh. Repaired the tube this time. I remember being
    shit-scared that the Comstar wheel rim would dent with the huge pull needed
    on the lever.

    *Exactly* the same thing happened when I visited a few months later, but
    luckily this time I didn't repuncture it. Sold the S'Dream a couple of
    years later and have had tubeless bikes ever since.

    I used to use Swarfega as a lubricant when fitting tyres. Worked a treat.
     
    Andy Clews, Oct 30, 2004
    #25
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    Pip Guest

    Once, I would imagine.

    Squirt gas, toss match, run swiftly away ... hear muffled explosion,
    accelerate ... listen to ice cracking and 4x4 keeling over and sinking
    .... try to outrun cracks in ice. Think of excuse to tell your Dad.
     
    Pip, Oct 30, 2004
    #26
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    Dan L Guest

    Tell me about it, although the TS has tubed tyres.
    3 bloody times I patted myself on the back for changing the tube, and each
    bloody time the inner tube was nicked on the rim.
    Bastard bloody thing.

    --
    Dan L (Oldbloke)
    My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
    M'boy's current bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Heavily fortified)
    M'boys NEW bike 2003 Honda NSR125R
    BOTAFOT #140, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow)
     
    Dan L, Oct 30, 2004
    #27

  8. Did you ever see the classic Clarkson documentary on off-roading in
    Iceland? In addition to this illuminating (sic) means of reflating a
    tyre, they had the nutter who reckoned that if he got his snowmobile up
    to a high enough speed, he could ride it across water, skimming like a
    stone.

    So he fired it up, and started belting across a flat piece of snow
    towards a large expanse of still water....

    .....and **** me sideways, it worked!

    So he tried again, and this time he obviously got the speed slightly too
    slow.

    Cut to a shot of a snowmobile lying full fathoms five in the crystal
    clear Arctic waters.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Oct 30, 2004
    #28
  9. that was something like my reaction.
     
    Austin Shackles, Oct 30, 2004
    #29
  10. TI

    ts Guest

    That's true, but a certain amount of pressure is neccesary to get it in
    place rapidly. When it comes to taking out the valve - mine[1] seems to
    be fitted from the inside of the rim, and with the tyre in place it
    would be impossible to get the valve back in place again.

    I had my last tyre blown onto place in a car tyre fitting shop this
    summer; they had difficulties doing so, and ended up applying generous
    amounts of a tyre fitting gel to seal the air inside. To no avail. THey
    ended up filling a small (5-10 l) pressurized tank with air, and letting
    it into the tyre through the gap between it and the rim. Suddenly it
    worked, and in the process everyone watching were covered by surplus
    gel. Made us laugh, though. Nice chaps, also.

    [1] could not see any obvious ways of screwing out the internals of the
    valve currently fitted.
     
    ts, Oct 30, 2004
    #30
  11. TI

    ts Guest

    I've over the years seen lots of this from northern Norway. Some of the
    lapps are really good at it, making newcomers ("I can also do
    that"-types) sink like lead ballons :)

    The point is that they have to realize, beforehand, that water is too
    loosely packed to allow them to accelerate on it. A bit like diesel
    spills on our latitudes.
     
    ts, Oct 30, 2004
    #31
  12. TI

    Fr Jack Guest

    He actually meant the valve *core*, which can be unscrewed with great
    ease.
    --

    Cheers!
    Fr Jack
    96 Tiger.
    FRJACKUKRM AT GMAIL DOT COM
     
    Fr Jack, Oct 30, 2004
    #32
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    Preston Kemp Guest

    It was definitely this year, & Chilli iirc (but I might not). He fell
    off on the way back to the pits.
     
    Preston Kemp, Oct 30, 2004
    #33
  14. TI

    Preston Kemp Guest

    Bad form etc but I didn't rc, you were right on the last guess - Haga.
     
    Preston Kemp, Oct 30, 2004
    #34
  15. TI

    ts Guest

    Nothing beats natural stupidity. It makes you ask, and get answers; be
    it about valves, or cheques.

    Conversely, it is often impractical with a doctorate, because then you
    are not supposed to ask!
    Well, from now on it all makes sense. But I have never seen a valve cap
    that logically would fit as a core removAl tool. Possibly not the chaps
    in the (car ++) tyre shop either, since they also didn't remove the
    valve core. Is this a MC only trick, or are they also "stupid"?

    cheers, Fr Jack!
     
    ts, Oct 30, 2004
    #35
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    platypus Guest

    There was a thing on (I think) GMM where people were racing snowmobiles on
    water. And yeah, mostly it worked...
    ....and sometimes it didn't.
     
    platypus, Oct 30, 2004
    #36
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    Lozzo Guest

    ts says...
    There are plenty of valve caps that double as valve core removal tools,
    I have a load of them in my garage.
     
    Lozzo, Oct 30, 2004
    #37
  18. TI

    Mark Olson Guest

    These types of valve caps that also function as a Schrader valve core
    removal wrench are quite common. Here's a picture of a typical core
    remover cap:

    http://www.dual-star.com/index2/Equipment/valve_stem_cap2.htm
     
    Mark Olson, Oct 30, 2004
    #38
  19. TI

    Ovenpaa Guest

    Are you in NO at the moment?
     
    Ovenpaa, Oct 31, 2004
    #39
  20. TI

    ts Guest

    No, southern England
     
    ts, Oct 31, 2004
    #40
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