Disc brakes ,excessive pad wear

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by Chris James, Apr 8, 2005.

  1. Chris James

    Chris James Guest

    I've completely worn out the rear pads on my Yamaha dual piston caliper .
    THis has take only 2.5 k miles !
    And I don't use 'em that hard .
    What has happened ?
    My guess is I didn't clean them and the filth on the pistons etc .. mucked
    things up .
    Is that it ?

    Chris
     
    Chris James, Apr 8, 2005
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  2. Some riders don't use their rear brakes at all, and claim to get 50K to
    60K miles out of the rear pads. I suppose the wear would be entirely
    from the pads lightly contacting the rotors as they spun past...

    I get 10K per set of rear pads on my Yamaha, and the same was true of
    both my Suzukis. And, I used to get 10K miles out of a set of rear
    brake shoes. I use the rear brakes a lot...

    You could be right about road crud building up on the pistons of your
    rear caliper. You might try spritzing out the crud with the cleaner of
    your choice and see what happens...

    Read what it says on an aerosol can of brake cleaning solvent to see if
    it's ok to get that stuff onto rubber parts...

    Water's bad for cleaning the crud out, it can get past the o-rings into
    the brake fluid and the brake fluid loves water, it will suck water
    right out of the air if it can...

    Water-based alkaline cleaners are a double-whammy. The alkaline
    chemical can corrode parts. The water can get into the brake fluid and
    dilute it. Hot brake fluid can boil at a high temperature, the water in
    brake fluid can boil at only 212 degrees F and cause steam which makes
    the pistons expand and applies the brakes...

    Does your brake pedal get hard to push after a few miles? You might
    have *air* in the system as well as water. You may have to bleed the
    air out...

    Last time I cleaned out a rear caliper with sticky pads, there was a
    lot of black crud and rust inside the caliper. It's a PITA to get the
    second piston out of a caliper after the first piston has popped out
    from pumping the brake pedal. It takes some imagination to figure out
    how to block off the brake fluid port to the first piston so you can
    pump out the second piston...

    The difference between front brake pad wear and rear brake pad wear is
    very noticeable, I get 50K and the front pads and 10K on the rear pads,
    every time...

    The front forks and the brake caliper mountings aren't as rigid as the
    mounting of a dual-piston caliper. Rotation of the disk doesn't knock
    the pads back from the rotors as intended by the designer...

    IMO, the front brake pads get knocked back by the front rotors wobbling
    just a tiny bit as the rider works the forks side to side when turning.
    Other people will insist that the square rubber o-ring in the caliper
    is what retracts the pistons and lets the pads get away from the rotors
    so they don't wear...

    IMO, the square o-ring acts more like a rubber ratchet than a rubber
    spring, letting the pistons automatically adjust for pad wear...
     
    krusty kritter, Apr 8, 2005
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  3. Chris James

    SAMMMMM Guest

    first, is it a reasonable new bike?
    the hoses are suspect. there may be a clamp on a hose that constricts the
    return
    of fluid from the caliper. (i've had it happen! drove me nuts).
    the master cylinder may be misadjusted.
    the caliper may be grunged up and the caliper is not relaxing as it should
    when
    you release the brakes. that's the common problem.
    good luck, sammmm
     
    SAMMMMM, Apr 8, 2005
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