Diesel Motorcycle?

Discussion in 'Texas Bikers' started by Sam Touchet, May 4, 2005.

  1. Sam Touchet

    Sam Touchet Guest

    I am interested in getting a diesel motorcycle. There is a Dnepr-Hatz
    diesel I read a little about. I could read more, but I don't speak German.
    It is a two-wheel drive hack that sounds very cool except for the low top
    speed.

    Does anyone have a diesel bike? I know there are some Enfields in the UK.
    I would be interested in having a custom bike built. I read about a guy who
    put a diesel on a Harley frame. I e-mailed Vicious Cycles but I haven't
    heard back. I also e-mailed a tech high school in Connecticut whose diesel
    mechanics class built one, but I haven't heard back from them either.

    Any help on engine choice? I wonder if the Boss Hoss guys would drop a
    Cummins diesel out of a Dodge Ram 2500 into one of their frames. It's just
    a matter of money, I suppose.

    Thanks in advance.
     
    Sam Touchet, May 4, 2005
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  2. real men ride Detroit Diesel or Caterpillar, 16 cylinder supercharged
    marine duty

    ..
     
    another viewer, May 4, 2005
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  3. "texdays"
    SNIP
    The basic motor IS a KLR650 motor.


    http://motorcyclecity.com/Military-bikes/M1030Diesel-Kawasaki.htm

    I wouldn't mind owning one...
    --
    Keith Schiffner
    RCOS #7
    Assistant to the Assistant Undersecretary of the
    Ministry of Silly Walks.
    "terrorist organization" is a redundancy
     
    Keith Schiffner, May 4, 2005
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  4. Sam Touchet

    BJayKana Guest

    I don't know one thang about no diesel powered motorcycle.
    I can't imagine why a feller would want one?
    First thing, diesel ain't as economical as it use to be, and the fuel
    has to be warmed up, to combust, right?
    Wouldn't that be an odd situation for a motorcycle? You know, an area of
    potential problem? More expensive
    battery?
    I'm anxioux to read more about it down this thread line.
    Shoot, after 8 or 10 responses, I might change ma mind, and trade off ma
    rice burner fer one. (wink)

    'Ya'll take care'' --BJAY--
     
    BJayKana, May 4, 2005
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  5. it will be interesting to see that how that Freightliner does 200 miles
    offshore in a 15-20 foot quartering swell and 50 knot gale. <g> Of
    course, if he's merely one of the couple of hundred containers loaded on
    board, he's no big deal. <vbg>
     
    another viewer, May 4, 2005
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  6. "fullstate"
    SNIP

    < There has been a slight resurgence in desiel
    bikes lately. I recently
    Here is a link to ONE that I know of. There is
    another that was in one of the Motorcycle rags,
    using a 3 cyl motor
    You aren't the only one. It would be kind of neat
    to pull up to the green handled pump. OR you could
    ride the Turbine bike, it runs on Diesel.
    --
    Keith Schiffner
    RCOS #7
    Assistant to the Assistant Undersecretary of the
    Ministry of Silly Walks.
    "terrorist organization" is a redundancy
     
    Keith Schiffner, May 4, 2005
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  7. message
    Damnit...forgot to paste the link.

    http://www.dieselmotorcycle.co.uk/
     
    Keith Schiffner, May 4, 2005
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  8. sure, why not.

    i'd still like to see a 16 cylinder supercharged marine Cat shoehorned
    into a Boss Hoss frame. Talk about a streched out bike with low end
    torque, plus the fuel and oil tanks necessary for it..... yowzah!
     
    another viewer, May 4, 2005
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  9. Sam Touchet

    Sam Touchet Guest

    Why I want one:
    1) better gas mileage
    2) bio-diesel
    3) torque, My dad and I rented dual purpose thumpers to explore in
    Breckenridge, CO a few years back. My 650 Suzuki had very little usable
    horse-power under those conditions. You had to carry a lot of speed to get
    up steep grades and then you don't know what is around the corner or over
    the hill. An SUV coming the other way, perhaps.
    4) The fuel doesn't have to be warmed up. B100 bio-diesel or SVO (straight
    vegetable oil) will congeal at very low temps, but regular diesel and B20
    won't have any problems here in Dallas.
    5) You could ride almost all the way to Antarctica and not worry about where
    you were going to find good unleaded fuel. Diesel is everywhere in
    developing countries.
    6) The diesel bike would certainly not be for everyone. If the masses
    wanted one, there would be one readily available.
     
    Sam Touchet, May 5, 2005
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  10. Sam Touchet

    BJayKana Guest

    Why I want one:
    1) better gas mileage
    2) bio-diesel
    3) torque, My dad and I rented dual purpose thumpers to explore in
    Breckenridge, CO a few years back. My 650 Suzuki had very little usable
    horse-power under those conditions. You had to carry a lot of speed to
    get up steep grades and then you don't know what is around the corner or
    over the hill. An SUV coming the other way, perhaps.
    4) The fuel doesn't have to be warmed up. B100 bio-diesel or SVO
    (straight vegetable oil) will congeal at very low temps, but regular
    diesel and B20 won't have any problems here in Dallas.
    5) You could ride almost all the way to Antarctica and not worry about
    where you were going to find good unleaded fuel. Diesel is everywhere in
    developing countries.
    6) The diesel bike would certainly not be for everyone. If the masses
    wanted one, there would be one readily available.
    --(sam touchet)---

    /
    /
    -----gotcha, those are good reasons. i didnt know about that type of
    diesel, don't think there's any available over here in E.Texas, though.
    ----talking above about the 650 Suzuki, ain't that a ''one cyclinder''
    bike?
    ---if so, no wonder it wouldn perform, that particular 650 Bike, is
    really about like riding a 450. My daughter had one, and I had a 600 VT
    Honda Shadow, there was NO Comparison in the horse power. Her's was
    weak.
    Back to Diesel, man, I'd hate to ride a diesel Bike, if it rattled like
    the Dodge Diesel engines.
    I've got a friend with a Diesel PickUp and I can hear him coming up the
    road, a block away. --bjay--
     
    BJayKana, May 5, 2005
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  11. Sam Touchet

    Sam Touchet Guest

    -----gotcha, those are good reasons. i didnt know about that type of
    Yep, the Suzuki was a single cylinder thumper. The first bike I bought was
    a Honda XL500R back in 1982. I don't remember the lack of torque back then,
    but I blew that engine to little bitty pieces in 6 months. Sold it to
    Austin Cycle Salvage and they hung what was left of the piston on the wall
    behind the counter.

    Back to the diesel, I don't know about small diesel engines. I am currently
    doing research. I used to have a Ford F-250 Powerstroke next door and it
    was loud. Not as bad (good?) as one of them Martin Brothers straight pipe
    choppers, though.

    I got a response from the F1 Engineering guys with the 650 Kawasaki they
    built for the Marines. They are looking for investors for a civilian
    version. We could see one in a year or so. All the bikes now are only
    available to the military.

    I am waiting to hear back from the Ural people. Does anyone have any
    experience with a "Patrol" or "Gear Up?" The two wheel drive and Earles
    fork do it for me, but the top speed of 60-65 mph would take me a week to
    get to Big Bend. It probably wouldn't lose much on the top end if I
    replaced the anemic Ural engine with a diesel though, if I could find a used
    one.

    Oh yeah, sorry about the top post last time. I read up on use-net etiquette
    and I will try to follow the rules. They make sense to me.
     
    Sam Touchet, May 6, 2005
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  12. Sam Touchet

    BJayKana Guest

    ‘‘Oh yeah, sorry’’ about the top post last time. I read up on
    use-net etiquette and I will try to follow the rules. They make sense to
    me.
    (sam touchet)
    /
    /
    That's okay, hell I'm reknown for goofing up in here, according to some
    of the so called veterans of usenet. (grinning)
    /
    You sound like a neo poster?
    Did you just stumble in this fine motorcycle group?
    I did, about six months ago.
    Good to hear (read) from a Gentleman sounding Biker. welcome......bjay

    'Ya'll take care'' --BJAY--
     
    BJayKana, May 6, 2005
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  13. Sam Touchet

    ShadowHawk Guest

    Sam - I also looked into BioDiesel conversions, and also at propane
    conversions for bikes.

    There's several google links that can be found for diesels.. Most seem to
    be in Europe, though, as diesel is more prevalent there. Most bikes I see
    are hombrewed conversions (i.e little Kubota diesel engines), with frame
    mods to make them fit. If I recall correctly, there may also be some
    BioDiesel bikes listed.

    http://www.peace65.freeserve.co.uk/Pictures/privateconversionsI-Z.htm

    http://www.peace65.freeserve.co.uk/Pictures/diesel.htm

    I contacted a guy - if I recall correctly - from the National Propane Gas
    Assn. (In Scottsdale, Az.) last summer in regards to a propane conversion.
    He worked for a utility company marketing department, and was looking for
    bikes with a propane conversion. I inquired as to whether he knew what the
    cost of such a conversion would be for a bike such as my old '82 Maxim -
    and he indicated that they never were able to find any bikes that ran on a
    propane conversion - as propane conversions for the last 10 years are EPA
    regulated, and is for specific vehicles.. And he (nor I) have been able to
    find any homebrewed examples of propane conversions.

    G'Luck in your search - and email me privately if you come up with a good
    running solution or homebrewed bike - Now that my Maxim's back on the road,
    I've got 2 other bike projects in the back yard to finish up at the moment
    - but a BioDiesel bike would be a very fun project!

    - Ural... They never have been responsive to my inquiries. I wanted more
    info on the Wolf (Which they DIDN'T bring to the bike show here in Dallas
    last November) - but got no response. The Dealer in Midlothian told me
    that if I wanted a Wolf, I'd have to prepay for it, as they had no plans on
    getting one in stock for show. He was more interested in selling the
    sidecar bikes/kits, which are almost pure profit from the
    dealer/manufacturer standpoints.

    Rex S.
     
    ShadowHawk, May 6, 2005
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