Dedication to your job

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Paul Corfield, Mar 24, 2006.

  1. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, The Older
    Well, quite.

    Not that anyone will pay to publish your ramblings, you senile old ****.

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel - To stay young requires unceasing cultivation of
    the ability to unlearn old falsehoods.

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Mar 25, 2006
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    The Older Gentleman, Mar 26, 2006
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  3. Paul Corfield

    Timo Geusch Guest

    But I think that's a slightly different perspective. Your job is more than
    writing and it's the writing part you love, isn't it?

    I love the programming part of my job and I can see myself doing that for a
    lot longer than a possibly retirement. But on *my* terms. I'd see
    retirement more as an opportunity to eliminate the parts of work that I
    don't really care about. Like spending far too much time in meetings.
     
    Timo Geusch, Mar 26, 2006
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    Ali Hopkins Guest

    Which is a lot less, and doesn't get you the related benefits that DLA gets
    you. My Pa is registered disabled - war wound, would you believe - and gets
    naff all from a grateful nation.

    Ali
     
    Ali Hopkins, Mar 26, 2006
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    Pip Guest

    He'll turn into LJK Togright, won't he?
     
    Pip, Mar 26, 2006
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    deadmail Guest

    Not as much that older people can't contribute; more that someone in the
    same job for a number of years is less likely to get fresh ideas about
    how to do it.
    I suppose it does at some point. Then again I don't expect much from
    society in retirement, maybe a health service but not much more than
    that.
     
    deadmail, Mar 26, 2006
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  7. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Pip
    Nah. He'll never be that good.

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel - To stay young requires unceasing cultivation of
    the ability to unlearn old falsehoods.

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Mar 26, 2006
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    Verdigris Guest

    But that only makes sense if you presume that someone of 65 is retired.
    If you remove the concept of a fixed retirement age that would no longer
    be reasonable.
     
    Verdigris, Mar 27, 2006
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  9. Paul Corfield

    Verdigris Guest

    I don't think I accept that, entirely. Certainly it's possible for
    someone who's been in one job for a while to become a bit complacent and
    just coast along without paying as much attention as they might have done
    when their job was fresh, but that doesn't have to be the case. It's also
    possible that someone fresh out of school may have more knowledge of the
    latest thing in their particular field.

    But that needn't be true. My experience of inexperienced but
    well-qualified staff is that they're not a lot of use. Most of their new
    ideas are crap. (This might not be the case in all industries, and
    perhaps I've just been unlucky.) Where companies run suggestion schemes -
    mostly manufacturing and distribution rather than IT/IS - most of the
    cases I've heard of of really good suggestions have benn made by staff
    with many years experience.

    If it's simply time-in-job that's the problem, then employers would
    receive benefit from switching their staff around; providing them with
    more variety. (That might also help remove dependence on particular
    staff.) And education is easily dealt with. My soon-to-be-ex employer is
    pretty good about providing training, although I know that not all
    companies invest a lot in this.

    A lot of companies might resist any such changes in their employment
    practices but it may be necessary to do something different soon.
    Ah, well I was suggesting that society's obligation to its citizens
    doesn't have a time limit, so neither should their obligation to it,
    (although the form thatt obligation takes might well change with time).
     
    Verdigris, Mar 27, 2006
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