Daylight Savings.

When does it start?

 

In Queensland.... pfffft.... :-(
Need democracy first.

 

Sunday the 26th of October at 2:00 am in NSW.

DaZZa

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"MikeH" wrote

Please expline?

We don't have daylight saving in WA because we have democracy. We have
been given four opportunities to vote on it in referenda. We voted no
each time. We even had a trial stuck down our throats. There appeared
to be some part of NO that both parties did not understand.

Theo

 

Ooohh - sounds like a raw nerve there

I love it, we've been back on DST for two weeks now and it's great.

Cheers


Kevin Gleeson
Imagine It
West Hobart
Tasmania Australia
www.imagine-it.com.au

 

Coupla weeks ago

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Conehead
"Your credibilty along with all the other people arguing in this thread has
been totally distroyed... I am copying this thread and will send it... but
I'll send it not to the parents, but to a couple of magazines I know..."
kiwipete in a hissy-fit

 

Fair enough, but I said Queensland.
I'm not commenting on W.A.

 

worried about the cows going mad and the curtains fading ??

 

yeah, same here, some people just don't understand that it's a stupid idea.

Doug.

 

It's just our way of distancing ourselves from from Qld and WA

What exactly is stupid about it?

Nev..

 

Hi Nev, just the whole "lets save some hours of our day so we can play after work
thing", for those of us who have to suffer 34C at 8pm to satify some executives
desire to play in the park with his kids it isn't a real cool idea.
The sensible idea would be for workplaces to introduce flexible start and finish
times as is done in a lot of European countries so those who want to finish early
start say at 7am instead of 8:20am etc.
Doug.

 

I heard daylight savings faded the curtains but I never heard of it blamed for
hot temperatures.

Nev..

 

I already start work at 7:30am & finnish at 4:10pm, This is my normal
work Hrs, With the option of plenty of overtime, works a treat when you work
in the great out doors, not good though when it's 30deg+

 

ROFL, and it makes the cows forget to come in for milking too remember LOL
Gawd there have been some bloody stupid reasons on both sides, I just think it's a
pointless exercise so I voted no.

Doug.

 

"Kevin Gleeson" wrote

It pissed me off that we had to spend a million dollars for a
referendum three times and still every year some wankers write to the
paper complaining how we really need DS. No doubt we'll have another
referendum soon, probably after another trial.

What is the purpose of DS anyway? So I can go to work in the dark for
an extra month a year? I generally leave for work around 6 am, even
now it's dark at 5.

Realities of daylight in WA 101.
At the equinox the sun is supposed to rise at 6 am and set at 6 pm but
that is local time, not zone time. In Sydney local time is 5 minutes
ahead of zone time so the sun would rise at 5:55 am and, as it rises
over the ocean, it does. It sets behind the Blue mountains meaning the
horizon is a couple of degrees higher than sea-level. Each degree of
horizon elevation makes a four minute difference to sun-set time. So
the sun sets in Sydney at 5:47.

In Perth the sun rises over the Darling ranges. the Darlings are
nowhere near as big as the Blue mountains but they're only 25 kms from
the CBD. The horizon is at least as high as the blue mountain horizon,
probably closer to four degrees, let's call it three. Local time is 16
minutes behind zone time. Therefore the sun rises at 6:28 am and sets
over the ocean at 6:16. Every day of the year the sun rises in Perth
33 minutes later that it does in Sydney and sets 29 minutes later.

So I suppose we have more total DST per annum than Sydney and we don't
even have to **** with our clocks.

Cheers

Theo

 

"Johnnie5" wrote

Never milked cows, have you?

Cows are animals of routine. They object strongly to a change of
milking time. You can milk them later (if you can put up with the
noise) but not earlier. They just won't give up their milk. Hell, if
Daisy normally gets milked before Maisy, try swapping the order for a
good laugh.

Theo
Our curtains are already faded.

 

Rubbish! WA has voted to secede from the Commonwealth too. That was back
in the 1930s and they still haven't done it.

If voting could change things it'd be illegal!

Cheers
Goaty

 

"Goaty" wrote

I wasn't there at the time but my understanding was that there was a vote
and the majority voted to secede. However, a majority is not enough, needed
67% and I think they got 64%. Missed it by that much.

You're right.

Theo

 

In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 22 Oct 2003 07:48:33 +0800

No, it got passed, but the Brits pulled a swifty:

"After Federation, many Western Australians felt they had lost more
than they gained by joining. By 1933 they became so dissatisfied that
they voted overwhelmingly at an advisory referendum, by a two-thirds
to one-third majority, to secede from the Australian Federation. A
petition was sent to London where a Joint Select Committee of the British
Parliament ruled it invalid because it had come from a State not the
Commonwealth. "
(http://www.ccentre.wa.gov.au/html/ex_change/exh03_07.htm)

And here's the numbers
" In a state referendum in 1933, the vote was 138 653 for secession and
70706 against."
(http://www.mup.unimelb.edu.au/democracy/254.html)

I remember the headquarters of the Secession Party was on the Stirling Hwy
near where I lived in Nedlands. Had a big yellow sign. Finally fizzed
out when Lang Hancock kicked the bucket, I think he was their major donor.

http://www.waec.wa.gov.au/state/factSheet18.htm?section=state&content=factSheet18.htm
has some fun stuff, I didn't know that there was a referendum on
Prohibition!

Naturally that one didn't get up, but unfortunately they don't give
actual results, although they do note that it didn't get a majority in any
electoral district. I'm surprised it got enough support to make it as far
as being voted on, must have been nursing killer hangovers or something.

It's amazing what you find on google:

1899 15 December, Town meeting in Albany, decided to secede from Western
Australia
Two petitions were sent to Queen Victoria from Western Australia with
30 000 signatures requesting the secession of Albany (concerned at
the negative effects of alternative development of Fremantle) and the
goldfields (whose populations - mainly recent immigrants from the eastern
colonies - wanted Federation) from Western Australia.

Zebee

 

Well as we are further south we have even more daylight than you guys.
Come mid-December there is still a nice twilight at 11pm and you've
got good light at 10pm (it takes a good hour to change over
completely).

I love it - you can mess around outside all evening ...

Each to their own I guess.

Cheers



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Kevin Gleeson
Technical Director
Blue Rocket Productions
Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
www.blue-rocket.com.au