DataTool System 3: Self Fit

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by elziko, Feb 16, 2004.

  1. elziko

    elziko Guest

    I'm thinking of buying a DataTools System 3 Alarm/Immob cheap and fitting it
    myself. However the DataTool web site does not give fitting instructions and
    I was wondering if anyone here has any experience fitting these?

    Is it difficult compared to fitting just a normal alarm?

    Does anyone know where I can find a fitting guide?
     
    elziko, Feb 16, 2004
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  2. elziko

    S.M. Guest

    That's because it's a Pro. fit unit. You will be issued an Install Cert.
    which the insewrance co. may ask for.
    If you do it yourself be sure the insewrance co. knows about it. They will
    probably waive any premium reduction but OTOH if you don't disclose thy
    could void a theft claim.

    The system on my 996 appeared to plug straight into a provision on the
    wiring loom.
     
    S.M., Feb 16, 2004
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  3. elziko

    Alan Guest

    They have to be fitted by an authorised person or you don't get a
    warranty, since there are question marks against the reliability of
    alarms generally I'd say you would be better to have it done
    professionally.
     
    Alan, Feb 16, 2004
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  4. elziko

    deadmail Guest

    Jesus... how hard can it be. Interrupt a couple of wires (maybe just
    one) and run a few sensors.

    Fitting an alarm is a piece of piss for anyone with half a clue about
    wiring. (yes, I've fitted a couple).

    I think the main reason you need the fitting done 'professionally' is so
    the insurance company *know* it's been fitted and not simply purchased
    and put in a cupboard.
     
    deadmail, Feb 16, 2004
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  5. elziko

    Catman Guest

    Well having a quick gander at the Evo 3 under my seat seems to
    indicate about 5 pairs of unmarked wires. Guess that a couple go to
    the non-functional LED, one pair to the ant-tamper switch, that leaves
    3 (unless there are more sensors)
    Ding. Not desparately hard at all

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    Catman, Feb 16, 2004
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  6. elziko

    Ianf Guest

    Some of these are in the manual and are grounded for options
    like 'no loud bleeps on arming'. These are the coloured ones
    (white/yellow etc.)

    The rest aren't, for the obvious reason of keeping their use
    obscure to as many folk as is practical.

    The fitting is effectvely thrown in when you buy at he £300
    mark.
     
    Ianf, Feb 16, 2004
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  7. elziko

    Alan Guest

    Thats what I was saying, you don't get a warranty or certificate of
    fitting unless done by an approved agent. Without the certificate you
    don't get the insurance discount. They don't give instructions 'cos they
    don't want to know if you **** it up, both my bikes have Datatool's and
    I wouldn't want to try installing one on my own. There are two switches
    (motion and seat alarm switch) and about eight or ten pairs of wires -
    all black and the only way to tell them apart is the numbers on the
    instructions (not provided) and the length of the wires themselves. You
    will also need a wiring diagram for your loom to splice into the correct
    leads. The one for the Tiger is custom made with Triumph logos on the
    transmitters and took two hours to fit.. The Kawasaki has their Evo plus
    alarm and I was charged £30 for fitting two years ago.You can have a go
    if you like but I certainly wouldn't
     
    Alan, Feb 16, 2004
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  8. elziko

    elziko Guest

    I understand that an insurance company might need a certificate... but for
    way less than half the price of a proffesionaly fitted one I'd still quite
    like one.

    I'm no stranger to things electrical but would like a guide before I pay out
    the cash! I just need to find a guide so I know which wires do what.
     
    elziko, Feb 16, 2004
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  9. elziko

    S.M. Guest

    Well if you don't care about the insewrance reduction and just want a decent
    working alarm spend a lot less dosh on a better alternative.
    http://www.sola-larm.com/motorcyclealarms.html the 835T is excellent,
    reliable, alarm & immobiliser circuits and cheap as chips. Telephone support
    is good too.
     
    S.M., Feb 16, 2004
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  10. elziko

    CT Guest


    Unless you can find a 'friendly' dealer, you're going to be
    out of luck I think.

    From the datatool website:

    Q. I want a set of fitting instructions where can I get them
    A. Sorry you can’t. The System 3 is insurance approved and dealer fit
    only.
     
    CT, Feb 16, 2004
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  11. elziko

    Ben Guest

    Why bother? It's not going to stop your bike getting stolen. And
    without a certificate you're not going to save any insurance money.
    So you'll basically be throwing 150 quid away.
     
    Ben, Feb 16, 2004
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