Dallas AMA Supermoto feedback <LONG>

Discussion in 'Texas Bikers' started by Jeffrey Johnston @ SDI, Oct 19, 2003.

  1. Hmmmm. I haven't even seen this mentioned here, so I thought I'd share
    some observations for any of you that thought about going but didn't.
    It will be broadcast on the OLN network on 11/13 if you want to catch
    it...

    Supermoto is a combination of dirt and road racing. 450-650cc 4-stroke
    motocross/enduro bikes are used (450cc seemed to be the biggest class).
    KTM seems to have the lion's share of the bike market, with Honda's
    CRF450 in second. There were a few Yamaha's, Suzuki's, and a lone
    Kawasaki (rebadged DRZ).

    All you need is suspension changes, gearing, and road tires and you're
    good. Roll on the throttle and slid the ass out on the corners like
    dirt track, jump like motocross, and with asphalt straights and turns
    like road race. ABC "Wide World of Sports" covered a similar series
    back in the early 80's I believe.

    The track was in the Reunion Arena parking lot, backed up to I-30. It
    started off on road with a straight, then a tight turn, then a straight
    ending with a metal diamond plate jump. Another corner, straight,
    couple corners, then dirt. Dirt jumps, some berms & corners, a few
    whoops, and back onto the road section with a couple tight turns dumping
    back onto the start/finish area.

    FWIW, my personal observations:

    Pros:
    -All the silly multi-surface, double line, double jumps, 4-stroke, road
    tire, power wheelie fun I could take in a day.

    -Got to watch some really talented racers that haven't been in the
    limelight in years.

    -Got to see my childhood hero Jeff Ward whip on the youngsters.

    -Got to see a lapped Grant Langston (I think he went down in the first
    corner) run through the pack and almost unlap himself. He really hung
    with Wardy.

    -Wife got to see her hero Jeremy McGrath get spanked by Wardy.

    -Bonus treat of some freestyle antics from the master, Mike Metzger.

    -Very cool to be able to wander all around the track and watch from many
    different vantage points. Much more intimate, not as sterile as the
    Dallas Supercross.

    -Very cool to get within a few feet of the bikes as they passed.

    -You could carry in lawn chairs. We had no clue tho', and it would have
    been nice.

    -Decent port-a-crappers.


    Cons:
    -Parking was $10. We rode the train, but our friends drove.

    -"Security" was a joke. 2 lines of folks at the gate, neither had staff
    over 19, and they all looked like they had partied way too late the
    night before. One line was using a metal detector wand and had every
    person empty their pockets and turn on/off cell phones. The other line
    of folks just walked on in. I guess one line was for terrorists, thugs,
    and all around bad guys. I opted for the "No thanks, I'm a good guy"
    line. My wife was in the other line and had her purse searched. I
    could have walked in with a thermonuclear device under one arm, SAM
    under the other, and plague vials in my pocket. Yep, secure alright.

    -No event program. I knew who many of the pro racers were by name, but
    would like to have known who the small guys were too. Would have been
    nice to know everybody's number too.

    -We paid an extra $10 each ($40 total) for "Grandstand" seating when
    ordering our tickets, only to find out nobody was checking tickets.
    Anyone could sit there. No biggie as there was maybe 40-50 folks in the
    stands (signs said they hold 800+), but I'd sure like my extra
    $10/ticket back.

    -No shade over "Grandstands". Very little elsewhere as the whole area
    was open. After about 2-3, there was shade on the side of some
    trailers, but you had to be in the pits (and pay extra).

    -"Grandstands" were just crappy wooden bleachers. To me, "Grandstand"
    implies something with shaded cover. Bleachers are open. Bah!

    -The mains were cut from 24 to 20 laps, with no reason given. Well, no
    reason we could hear anyway.

    -Announcers couldn't be heard over the blaring music most of the time.

    -Asshat announcers couldn't be bothered to close the mics when the bikes
    went by their stand. The roar of almost 20 open exhaust 4-strokes
    played over an already too loud PA was deafening, even with ear plugs.

    -Got raped for another $10 ($40 total) to enter the pits and chat with
    some racer folks we knew. This really sucked as we figured that would
    be included in the "super-duper" hose-job tickets we had already
    purchased. I really felt bad for the kids whose parents I overheard
    saying they can go watch McGrath's crew service his bike because they
    couldn't afford the extra $60 (2 adults and 4 kids).

    -Market to a wider demographic for crying out loud. Why can't they
    realize we're not all pierced, tattooed, underwear hanging out, baggy
    jeans & knit cap wearing 18 year olds? My wife and I are 31, both ride,
    own 5 bikes, and love any 2-wheeled racing. The couple with us are in
    their 40's-50's, have multiple bikes, and dig all racing too. Hello????

    -Very poor job advertising the race. I probably talked to a dozen of my
    racing/riding buddies, none had even heard of the event coming to
    Dallas. I work with a local daily FM talk show, and they would have
    loved to have some of the racers on their show last week (they've had
    Seth Enslow, Deegan, and Hart on before). They never even got a press
    release or anything. I know most of this NG are too busy polishing the
    chrome off their cruisers, but christ, I figured there would have been
    some discussion here too.

    -Other than Audrey having her Moto Liberty tent, the AMA swag trailer,
    and 2 display bikes from a local KTM dealer, no vendors or displays to
    speak of (save for the huge KTM trailer & their roped off pit area).
    Really, they should have invited every bike shop in town to come down
    and setup a tent or something. For free. At least the vast expanse of
    the area wouldn't have been so vacant.

    All in all, we had fun. But, it seemed a crappy value and very under
    attended, so I wonder if it will hit Dallas again.

    Jeff
     
    Jeffrey Johnston @ SDI, Oct 19, 2003
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  2. Jeffrey Johnston @ SDI

    Bill Walker Guest

    LOL.... Jeff, my man... welcome to the world of the "Patriot Act"..
    As much as I enjoy watching those wizardly bike handlers perform, it is
    always nice to at least be able to identify them..
    Maybe the sponsor's did show a profit for the event..
    I'm with you on that one.. BTW.. was there any provisions for the biker's
    who rode there.. Restricted parking or parking in the vast lots available
    around Reunion.. Those places are total disaster with cages historically
    backing into or otherwise slamming parked motorcycles..
    Quite a contrasting distraction, I can imagine..
    I suppose that would account for the low turnout.. (partly).. For my part,
    those events are mostly over-hyped and over priced..
    Seems like the crowds attracted to those events are getting younger every
    year, Jeff... Or, perhaps you and I are just getting "older".. Whoops.. I
    hope your wife isn't reading over your shoulders... My apologies to you,
    Ma'am..
    Why didn't you initiate the discussion, Jeff.. Our chrome is most important
    and we must maintain our image.. Many of us do post regularly on this
    newsgroup, as busy as we are in maintaining the investments in our bikes..
    Your enthusiasm for the racing sport is commendable, but if you didn't
    initiate a post to advertise the event, don't bitch at me about it.. With
    your knowledge of it, you should be responsible enough to post something
    about it.. (big ol' smile)
    We should all hope so, Jeffrey.. Many of us do enjoy the expert and artistic
    bike handling that goes with this type event.. Next time, I will hold you
    personally responsible to make us all aware, by posting on this group...Glad
    you had a good time and sorry I missed it...

    Your friend in Irving
    Bill Walker
     
    Bill Walker, Oct 19, 2003
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  3. Maybe the sponsor's did show a profit for the event..

    Not sure the turnout was enough, at any price, for a profit.
    I looked for "bike only" parking, but didn't see any. We walked through
    the parking lot to our friends' car, and there were a few bikes parked
    in regualr car spots. A few were aso parked in other misc. areas.

    Hell, I didn't know about it until early last week when I was told we
    were going. I only browse Usenet on the weekends mostly.

    Hmmm. Ok. Um, next April 17th is the Dallas Supercross. It's both a
    THQ World Supercross GP event and an AMA Supercross Series event.
    Always fun!

    Jeff
     
    Jeffrey Johnston @ SDI, Oct 19, 2003
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