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Oh??? Well, the Australian War Memorial hasn't looked arde enough
either, it appears. Here's what they say:

------------- quote --------------------
Australia’s initial military contribution to South Vietnam was modest;
comprising a team of 30 advisers who worked in various areas of the
country under the command of Colonel F.P. ‘Ted’ Serong. Known as the
Australian Army Training Team Vietnam (AATTV), they gave Australia a
presence in South Vietnam and were seen as an embodiment of the
Australian doctrine of ‘Forward Defence’ - meeting threats at their
source rather than waiting to fight an enemy on Australian soil.

Colonel Serong arrived in Saigon, South Vietnam’s capital, on 31 July
1962. His men followed on 3 August. This small unit was the vanguard
of Australia’s decade-long involvement in the Vietnam War.
------------ unquote -------------

http://vietnam-war.commemoration.gov.au/vietnam-war/australia-enters-1962.php

You're full of shit, mate.

You were not "serving in Vietnam" in March '62.

You're an imposter.

You're a pretend veteran.

A phoney.

A cockroach.





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Onya bike

Gerry

 

You were not there, or at least I do not recall seeing you there at that
time

Not really Gerry, just using an alias in this group
..

Never claimed to be a veteran Gerry
All I said was that I went to Vietnam in 1962 as part of a group to train
the South Vietnamese in things
We were part of a group from the RAE who were asked to volunteer and we did
Probably was a young blokey thing to make a quid and visit somewhere we
hadn't been before

As a matter of fact, none of us who came back ever claimed to be "veterans"
in the sense of being "Returned Servicemen"
and it was proven to us when we went to the RSL and were rejected for
membership because we had not serve overseas for any alotted time with any
recognised force

""> Colonel Serong arrived in Saigon, South Vietnam's capital, on 31 July

As you can see Gerry, that mob arrived after we left

You Gerry are the phoney
a phoney Vietnam veteran who threw away any recognition of being there
even though you probably didn't deserve any of them
Then you come back 30 years later and claim veteran status.
under the guise of wanting to stop all wars

A soldier wanting to stop wars?
Come now Gerry
fighting for peace ?
How do you fight for peace?

And unlike you Gerry, I do not cut relevant bits out to suit the argument

end of debate.

 

This still does not explain why I can find no record of any RAE team
going to SVN in March 1962. Even RAE historians I have contacted have
never heard of this. Surely this is an imprtant part of the RAE's
Vietnam history? Care to point me at ANY reference ANYWHERE which
mentions the team you claim to have been with?

You must admit the Serong thing was cute...

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Onya bike

Gerry

 

"George W Frost" wrote

I can't figure out why we just don't make make all drugs legal and
sold for $10-$20 a hit at your local chemist.
Some advantages
They would be cheap.
There would be no bad batches.
Quality would be controlled.
No accidental overdoses.
No need to knock over old ladies for their purses.
We could release 30% of the people currently in prison.
Drug dealers would disappear.

Theo

 

......

Too many "Vested interests" making too much money right now with the
current situation to change it.

Where do you think all the crooks would go to make money, there are only
*so many* jobs available in financial trading and on company boards, you
know?

--
Regards, David.

David Clayton
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
Knowledge is a measure of how many answers you have, intelligence is a
measure of how many questions you have.

 

I'd go further, and suggest adding copious dosages of contraceptives to each "hit," thereby preventing the cretins from breeding.

**** knows we've got more than enough parentless* kids already.

* without mentally functional parents

 

On 11/05/11 4:52 PM, Theo Bekkers wrote:

Sounds sensible to me, especially if we can also buy, over the counter,
a nice cheap suicide pill.

It would reduce some of the carnage on the roads, and make life easier
for train drivers.

regards,
CrazyCam

 

And save money building essentially useless "safety" barriers on just one
major bridge in Melbourne while another bridge just a couple of kilometres
away has absolutely nothing.

--
Regards, David.

David Clayton
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
Knowledge is a measure of how many answers you have, intelligence is a
measure of how many questions you have.

 

You wouldn't have to. A decent hit of heroin is going to give a nice
cheap painless suicide.

Fraser

 

Are we sure of that?

I hate to go to all the bother, then have some good intentioned ambo
inject me with something to neutralise the heroin.... which, I believe,
they do do.

regards,
CrazyCam

 

Only if they find you in time. A friend of mine killed himself with a
heroin overdose 10 years ago. It works.

Fraser

 

Provided it makes you totally liable for any shit you do, no excuses.

 

Why would it be any different than it is with alcohol?

 

Anyone who survives suicide doesn't really have their heart in it.

Nev..

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-11-08/payten-guilty-of-war-memorial-urination/3652800

Just one of a example of "I was too drunk to know what I was doing" get
out of gaol/fine/sentence free examples.

 

A good lawyer may be able to use that defence to get you off, but I was
suggesting that I didn't think legalised drug use would be any different
to alcohol in that being pissed is not an excuse in my opinion.

 

Here's something quite a bit worse...

www.abc.net.au/news/2011-02-09/1936354

 

I always thought sentences for such crimes in Vic were lenient but
that's unbelievable, the **** should be in goal for a very long time.

Daryl

 

Mandatory 5 years no remission and 20 blows with the cane
no ifs butts or excusses

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X-No-Archive: Yes

 

What's the point of that? Do we kick soccer balls at him until he
bleeds? What do we do then about the hooligans running around with
shirts over their heads shouting *GOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL*!?

Where does the cane go if you can't use the butt?