Covering the brake

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Pip, Jul 8, 2004.

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    dwb Guest

    I took a decision the other day when a stupid bird ran into the road of
    '**** it' and just carried it.
    It moved, but I wouldn't have cared if it hadn't - cue cries of my lack of
    compassion towards animals.
    Is this actually true though? There are times when I've rolled off mid-bend,
    thinking "oh shit" (usually for other reasons) , and the bike has opened
    it's line slightly, but it doesn't actually react that violently. I guess
    this is possibly down to it being a modern bike (which makes me not want an
    old/non-sports bike ;-) ) or me riding slowly or something.
    That sounds very familiar...
     
    dwb, Jul 9, 2004
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    dwb Guest

    There is a theory though that using the throttle only possibly does slow
    down your riding or at least isn't that helpful. It's in my local IAM rag
    this month - basically saying that if you ride around all the time using
    only the throttle the day you really need the brakes will be the one you end
    up on your arse - (this is all to do with a long(ish) standing argument for
    and against track days). That and slowing down _miles_ earlier then
    necessary - very smooth, but very slow.
     
    dwb, Jul 9, 2004
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    darsy Guest

    I don't "not" use the brakes.
     
    darsy, Jul 9, 2004
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    sweller Guest

    On some of the older 70s Jap machines I've owned it certainly wasn't a
    good idea as it would seriously unsettle an already pretty fidgety
    suspension.

    I can more or less do it with impunity on the Guzzi and MZs
     
    sweller, Jul 9, 2004
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    dwb Guest

    Neither do I, but I do know I occasionally slow down miles too early :)
     
    dwb, Jul 9, 2004
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    Ace Guest

    It certainly varies a lot with the bike, as does the use of front
    brakes in corners. This latter would seriously unsettle the Sprint ST
    ( and most other bikes I've owned) causing them to sit up big stylee
    and often tending to start a weave in high-speed bends as the front &
    rear suspenders tried to catch up with each other.

    The same amount of front braking on the gixxer goes almost unnoticed.

    Reasons why everyone should have a gixxer thou, #25 in a series of
    infinity.
     
    Ace, Jul 9, 2004
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    Ace Guest

    And your point is?

    They probably don't recommend stoppying into bends on mountain roads,
    consistently overtaking on solid[1] white lines, doing 160+mph and all
    sorts of other things I deem to be part of my uncivic duty, either.


    [1] Double, for you UK types.
     
    Ace, Jul 9, 2004
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    Owen Guest

    I seem to remember the IAM reccomending filtering at no more than
    15mph faster than the traffic...
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    Owen, Jul 9, 2004
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    Owen Guest

    As long as you're not ridding like a complete twat I don't suppose
    they're too bothered...
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    1 Red, undergoing lightweight surgery. -----
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    Numbers ... | o |
    Stuff ... | ooo |
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    Owen, Jul 9, 2004
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    darsy Guest

    that's when you first get on the bike, isn't it?
     
    darsy, Jul 9, 2004
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    darsy Guest

    My commute involes a lengthy section of double broken white lines with
    diagonal stripes - I am working on the assumption that this is the
    "motorcycle lane".
     
    darsy, Jul 9, 2004
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    Champ Guest

    Just check it works for the MOT / Scrutineering.
     
    Champ, Jul 9, 2004
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    Ace Guest

    You are indeed correct in that assumption :)
     
    Ace, Jul 9, 2004
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    dwb Guest

    Er, is that a dig, or a serious question?
     
    dwb, Jul 9, 2004
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    Champ Guest

    The *theory* is, if you are near the limit of the amount of grip you
    have on the front tyre, then shutting the throttle will transfer
    weight to the front and may overwhelm it. In practise, this is
    unlikely on the road.

    However, shutting the throttle hard will unsetlle the suspension,
    which may make a bad situation worse.
     
    Champ, Jul 9, 2004
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    Ace Guest

    Used to, pre-gixxer. Now trying to brake the habit.
     
    Ace, Jul 9, 2004
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    darsy Guest

    I should have clarified that by "except on the CD, where the back
    brake is better than the front".
    I do use it *very* occasionally - I'm thinking of when riding down
    steep hills covered in wet leaves or some other non-grippy situation.
     
    darsy, Jul 9, 2004
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    Champ Guest

    I will, this weekend.
    I feel dirty now.
     
    Champ, Jul 9, 2004
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    darsy Guest

    "What would Jesus do?"
     
    darsy, Jul 9, 2004
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    That's right, I bet he could shave at least 10% off his commute time
    by sliding the back at will, and hoiking a wheelie with his knee down.
     
    Ben Blaney, Jul 9, 2004
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