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HooDooWitch wrote

<waves>

 

Indeed, Brother Burnt, I think you're on the right line of thought
here. Not only but also - "nobody has ever, ever, ever been locked up
just for excessive speed. They've been locked up for the associated
'due care' or 'reckless' charges laid simultaneously".

All the best, folks.

 

If you turn up without a brief the bench just *might* think you don't

Or they might think you're poor and therefore give you less of a fine.
I was lloomgint through some court results for drink drives. Looking at the
cars driven there's a distinct relationship between the value of the car and
the fine/ban imposed. Unfortunately I couldn't see the alcohol content so I
can't say for definite that the fine depends on what they think you can
afford...(but it does).
So tell them you're unemployed and on benefits, not forgetting turning up in
jeans and trainers looking like a pikey, tell them you can't afford whatever
it is they give you, and that you need the licence to travel to job centres
and attend interviews in order to try to stop living off benefits. I
wouldn't have the bottle to try this, but it seems to work for the pikeys...

 

^^^^^^^

If that's a typo for 'looking' you must have fingers like spaghetti.

 

If you have a foreign accent they'll give you a three bed council house.
I know /they/ have put aside £400,000 million in benefits for 'so-called'
asylum seekers.

If you haven't got a foreign accent [1], make sure you wear a St George
cross badge so they know you're a hard working Brit who loves his country.


[1] No, yours doesn't count.

 

That's the thing that takes the piss. You've had your punishment yet
ins cos still load you for another 2 years.

 

I think the insurance company is at liberty to ask you to go back ten
years if they feel like it, or even 20; it's a contract between you and
them based on their assessment of the risk you offer. In this case you
don't ever 'discharge' your conviction.

I don't think they are taking the piss- I don't like it but they have to
base their decision on your history.

 

That's true enough but it doesn't leave any room for the possibility
that earning that conviction may have altered your driving to the
extent that you actually become safer.

Obviously having more than 3 points makes this bollocks.

 

I think my take on this is that a brief is a form of insurance. You pay
the money out and have someone to provide informed advice about the
case, the consequences and assuming he/she is half decent someone who
explain your circumstances fairly and appropriately to those who have
power over you.

I'd hate to be sitting outside the court saying to myself "if only I'd
spent the money to get a brief - I wouldn't be in this mess now".

I appreciate the nuances of your case and your assessment of the
probabilities but I think the Vegetable One has identified the real
issue for you - a more than likely hostile bench. As Dr Deadmail has
also pointed out - it's not that either of you are short of the cash to
afford representation.

I wish you and Adie all the best.

 

Agreed ... years ago when I had a speeding offence the brief almost had
me convinced I'd not been speeding (111.7mph)

I am 100% positive that without a letter from my employer and a decent
brief I'd have had a ban, as it was I got a few points and a 200 quid
fine.

Ditto ^^^^

--
Steve Parry
K100RS SE
F650

http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk

 

I was rather hoping darsy became Mr. Big's shower buddy plaything.

 

Microshite's spellcheck didn't mind it much. That is an impressive typo
though I must admit

Don Tagliatelli.

 

neither of you seem to be up to speed on my macro-financial situation.

 

Heavens, the only thing I've ever learnt from punishment is try harder
not to get caught!

 

This is my main concern about the whole deal. I wouldn't imagine the
courts in Macclesfield to be as bad as Wales, but I wouldn't expect them
to be as level-headed as some regions might be.

 

A very good point. Whether the brief actually did any good or not you
would be much less likely to go through the 'if only' bit if you'd hired
a brief. Of course this depends on your character but I know I'd beat
myself up horribly about this one were I banned and hadn't hired a
brief.

So insurance for *future* peace of mind!

 

It's not that bad. Don't be baited into saying something you might
regret later. Assume every utterance from the other side has a hidden
agenda. Try to be honest as the judge has more than likely seen
countless faces and knows when you're lying.

Worked for me.

 

You're talking about buying a new car. You've a large house with equity
in it and several bikes. You've a promotion/bonus/whatever coming up.

Sure it may cause a cash-flow issue but it's not as if you're out of
work.

 

The lesson I learnt was...




....be more observant.

Works on so many levels.

 

AONTL. It's never fun being in that sort of situation. ATB.