court

you didn't, did you?

 

well, we're up for just about the first slot in the morning, so if
there's one available, we should be able to have a word. I've never
heard of such a thing, though...

 

well, we've dithered for too long anyway, perhaps.

well, duh.

 

no. I figured they wouldnt say anything different to their statements
(which they obviously wrote after watching the video).

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that's what I thought.

Thing is, I'd originally pled (pleaded, whatever) not-guilty for the
"without due care". Can/should I change my mind and just guilty and
say sorry?

Where's that JP waster when you need him...?

 

yep and that is plus vat so that adds on almost another ton.

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sod that, then.

I'll just shave my beard off, wear a dark suit and tie, and look very
very sorry.

 

that's my take on it - getting them to turn up would just make us look
like awkward cunts, and probably increase the costs.

 

darsy wrote

I don't drive a lorry but do I need my license to get around and do
business.

 

if I was banned for a a shortish time (say a couple of months) it
really wouldn't inconvenience me very much at all.

 

'cept for insuarance renewals.

 

I tried to use the duty solicitor when I had my day in the dock. They
were shite and I had to queue for about an hour just to talk to them.
There will be a lot of people trying to use them. Mind you, this was
Birmingham County Court which I imagine is a bit busier than
Macclesfield.

 

In uk.rec.motorcycles, darsy said:

Depends what you think you're likely to get. If you plead guilty now, it
may look to the judge that you've seen the error of your ways and are
ready to take what's coming. A good thing IMO; it'll also clear the way
for him to get on with real criminal business like prosecuting muggers
and rapists ;-)

Probably chastising motorists over minor misdemeanours

 

darsy wrote

I disagree but I'll let others argue the point.

However, the brief's job is to make you appear less guilty than charged
and given that there is quite a horrendous maximum sentence it would
seem sensible to me to take such steps as are necessary to make sure
you/Adie don't get one. In a word: insurance.

 

The duty solicitor is the one that the pikeys use, I saw one on The Bill
once, so it must be true.

 

In uk.rec.motorcycles, Ginge said:

I asked for a duty solicitor when I was up for a ban ( only two month to
go to the day! Time *flies*!!) and they said as I was pleading guilty I
didn't need one because it was not a criminal case.

 

Hmm... taking advice from someone that got banned for a similar(ish)
charge although different circumstances.

I really don't think that's wise. It implies you contemplated lying to
the court doesn't it?

 

Aye, had Adie got anyone organised to look after Puss?

 

wrote

Not as I understand it.

I always thought that the court was duty bound to consider a change of
plea to imply that you thought, whether through iggerance, stupidity or
bad advice, that you were innocent but a study of your conscience and a
word with an expert has now convinced you that the law is right and you
are sorry proportionally.