Country towns not well

Heheh I suspect you may be right errm left errm correct !

JL
and JWH was really a soft centred moderate too...

 

We'll make a good socialist of you yet. But not till you realise what
is wrong with the globalised capitalism.

But we are patient...

You're still young...

And impressionable...

And probably still thinking with your penis...


Onya bike...

Gerry

 

Aaah yes the much predicted death of the mainframe... after 20 years I'm
sure it'll happen soon

JL
also still waiting but not too worried if it does

 

shit gerry, you could at least read what is posted

Generically does not equal generally

We haven't had a debate yet. So far you've failed to answer any
questions, back up any of your assertions or attempted to rebut any
counter argument.

What you've actually done is pontificated, then stood on your soapbox
saying "lalalalala I can't hear you" when the gaping holes in your tale
were pointed out

Oh dear, well don't go to sleep next time we have a ride then, hey ?

But does it have a hyphen or not ?

JL

 

<sheepish look>

Oops... I just noticed that you actually said "generically" and not
"generally".

Can we pretend you said "generally" ???

That way it all still makes sense.

If not, then can I suggest that in fact you SHOULD have said
"generally", because popaganda takes many forms and the form you
described is only one of many?

There, I knew it would be all right.

Goodnight...


Onya bike...

Gerry

 

I was posting my "mea culpa" just as you posted this.

Read my next message.

Tragedies come in many forms...

If you were expecting that I was trying to convince you with anything
that you would accept as 'acceptable evidence', then we both know that
I knew that in your Weltanschauung, no such thing can possibly exist
and, ergo, I wouldn't waste my time trying.

I have told you that there are economists with views similar to mine
and when you master the art of Googling, you will be able to find them
and tell them how wrong they are.

I'm not interested, John.

I don't do Usenet while riding a bike...

I don't think so.


Onya bike...

Gerry

 

Gerry there are a lot of people who might make a socialist out of me,
but at the going rate you're not one of them.

The part where you start coming up with rational argument is the part
where you start having influence over my view point, until then...

Well, do tell, we're all still waiting...

Good to hear, given I have a good 20 years on you, you may well die
first, maybe you should consider sharpening your rhetoric instead of
hoping for attrition by time

Not really, I'm old enough not to be easily swayed, and even the naive
wouldn't be swayed by your attempts to date.

Not likely.

Probably true, most blokes do. It's the way society works, we're
programmed to do the things that improve our chances of reproducing,
bloody conquests, rendering opponents limb from limb, that sort of
thing. Apparently it impresses the ladies and reduces the competition or
something.

JL

 

Oh good, because I don't have the patience (or what you want to hear).

Watch my lips "I am not trying to convince you."

[1] Google "what's wrong with globalisation", or "what's wrong with
capitalism", or "what's wrong with globalised capitalism". (and don't
forget to use z's instead of s's if you want Yank sources.)

[2] Wade through the shit till you find writers/refereces you think
are reputable enough, and start reading.

[3] Enjoy.

In one breath you say that I have no credibility with you, and then in
the next you want me to convince you. Catch-22. I'm not trying to
convince you. I know I can't. I'm not an academic and I never will
be. You have been hypnotised by academia, so you need to find some
academic impresses the shit out of you. See [1], [2], and [3] above.

Watch my lips "I am not trying to convince you."

Watch my lips "I am not trying to convince you."

Onya bike...

Gerry

 

In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:24:40 +1100

And then the predicted death of FORTRAN.

Zebee

 

I may have had to make a living out of COBOL at one stage but my first
love was always FORTRAN!

Now there's a language... [1]


G-S

[1] No you may not have my rose tinted glasses

 

Church (n): gathering of people

 

If I can take a large pair of bolt cutters.... I'll take it!

regards,
CrazyCam

 

I don't believe I have said that - do you wish to point it out fto jog
obviously faulty memory

Mmm - you put up an "opinion" without any supporting facts or even a
plausible inferred argument - all I've asked is for you to give some
reasons for your position. Go look it up on the internet isn't a
reason. I don't know which of these arguments you're relying on, why
would I waste my time looking up something that you then say is
irrelevant or wrong ?

mmm ? Really, and what do you base that assertion on ? Or am I
supposed to google the answer to that as well ?

<shrug> both academics and non academics can muster plausible
arguments, the only difference with academics is that they usually
attempt to support their position with facts and analysis rather than
assertion. Non academics are far more likely to do the "it is because
I said so" argument like that which you have tabled.

Oh good, because you're succeeding in not convincing me.

JL
(although I'm still open to hearing WHY you think we'll be better off
cutting ourselves off from the world through a process of saying "if
we do X then I expect Y outcome based on this reason" (ie other
countries having done so etc)

 

Bollocks. The only reason acceptable evidence would be non existent
would be if there was no basis to your argument. If your claimed "many
economists" exist then there must be a factual basis of some sort.
This isn't religion, this is basic first year social science. It's not
"a belief system" it's a science of human behaviour and interaction.
Actions have reactions and consequences. The only real difference to
physics is people have emotions and hence that makes them prone to
randomness and irrational behaviour. That's ok, it just means you can
never 100% predict an outcome, you can only every give a probability
to an outcome. That's why you have to model behaviours and that's why
you have asset bubbles and bursts.

Like most religious people you've formed an irrational belief system
that doesn't stand up to challenge, and leaves you with an
unsupportable "it is because I said so" position. It's interesting
that your high priests to buttress your belief are the very same ones
who you claim to be the "rortists" who should be digging holes with
trenching tools out the back of bourke.

Table your economists and their arguments that you believe support
your position, you can hardly expect me to guess which out of the
multiple millions of economic articles written are the ones that are
your peculiar bible.

JL

 

Nah, capitalists are far too greedy to work together.

I don't know the words, sorry.

Theo

 

In aus.motorcycles on Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:10:41 -0800 (PST)

"Let no one build walls to divide us
Walls of hatred nor walls of stone
Come greet the dawn and stand beside us
We'll live together or we'll die alone"

except, presumably walls of tariffs...

"So comrades come rally
For this is the time and place
The international ideal
Unites the human race"

except the ideal of international trade I suppose.


Zebee
- who finds it a stirring song and prefers the translation Billy
Bragg sings to the older ones. But then he rescued The Red Flag
from the dirge generations of Labour Party hack sang it to, so he has
that much of an ear. The White Cockade is a fighting tune not a
funeral march like Oh Tannenbaum.

 

My FORTRAN days, Wollongong Uni 1968, were marked by everyone
lengthening their arms carrying boxes of cards around campus. You could
tell a real programmer by how much longer his arm was than his sleeve.

If you rode a motorbike it was easier to turn one way than the other by
term three.

Twenty years later there was a bunch of us who thought Modula-2 was the
future. Now there's a death that came quickly.

Kim

 

Thought this was /your/ therapy ?

 

My parents were singing the variant version 'The People's Flag' in the
early-sixties (and may be earlier), so I think Wikipedia (That
Authoritative Source) is wrong to credit Leon Rosselson with authorship
in the late-sixties. The parody wouldn't be half as funny without
Tannenbaum being such a miserable over-done tune.