Country towns not well

I was in the mood for a bit of flippancy.

But I would like to see us change radically how we do economics.

I'm completely _not _sold on globalisation. I think it will lead to
Australia losing what little remains of its economic independence
(self-sufficiency).

I think we ought to be heading in the opposite direction, i.e.
economic self-sufficiency in all vital areas of the economy.

I don't mind if I get called an economic nationalist. I think it's a
lot better than us being a slave to the big economic powers.

I don't think it would be easy. I don't think it would be painless.
But I do think fighting for our economic freedom (and that's what it
would be) would be worth it in the long run.

And I don't have any problem with tariffs, governement control or even
publicly owned enterprises.

I'm a dreamer, I know.

Now, this is the end of this thread for me.

Seeya, dudes and dudettes.

Onya bike...

Gerry

 

I've shut this thread down for myslef, but in departure, let me just
say that you misunderstood what I menat by rortists. to me all
economists, numbercrunchers, et al who support the "free market"
model of econmics are rortists. It was just another little epithet I
threw your way so as to help you get offended.

Good night, John.

Onya bike...

Gerry

 

Relax, Australia is safe. I have zero chance of taking over
Australia.

But you need to get your humour meter repaired, boy. It ain't readin
correctly.

Onya bike...

Gerry

 

You win.


See my final comment in this thread (to Capt_about_lunchtime) above.

Onya bike...

Gerry

 

Yes I am till next July. But in the meantime I've passed the age of 65
and Centrelink called me in for a little talk. Despite my fulltime job
they insisted on giving me a Seniors Health Card, which gives me a
$500 a year 'living' subsidy, free medical at my GP, $5 scripts at the
Chemist, and now a $1400 bonus. When I retire they promise to give me
another couple of $K tax free for working past 65. Ain't they nice
people?

Theo

 

Ahh, the Pol Pot solution, followed by cut and run.

Good one Gerry.

Theo

 

I knew that about the content but not that it was legal in NSW. Some
bloke over here has been fighting the Gov't for a permit to grow for
about ten years.

Theo

 

No, you misunderstand, I am more like Hitler than Pop Pot.

Pop Pot just killed his victims, whereas Hitler worked them to until
they were of no further use, and even then he utilised every part of
their bodies, clothing etc (having already seized their assets).

As you can tell Hitler was the better economist of the two...

Hence my comment about tentrinching tools and digging for water
back-o-Bourke...

I could save this country... ;-)


Onya bike...

Gerry

 

Don't quote on that, I'm not sure if I read it or dreamed it.


Onya bike...

Gerry

 

yes, but that could take decades and in the meantime cheap imports
kill our capacity to porduce across a wide enough range, and we become
utterly dependent on (and controlled by) The Big Boys.

I still say we ought o build an economic model that gives us a large
enough degree of economic self-sufficiency i.e. freedom and
independence form economic skullduggery.

Yes, and I don't see why, just as in society, indpendent
(self-sufficient) individuals can (and should) work together
co-operatively for a greater common good, this cannot also be true at
the national/international level.

That's just one view. Not one I share. And it certainly is _not_ The
Absolute Truth. There are many ways to do economics. You're just
singing form the Free Market (Big Busines Bulldozer) song sheet.
There are many other song sheets and many other songs.


Onya bike...

Gerry

 

Kill yourself.

 

On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:21:44 -0800 (PST),

After you.

Onya bike...

Gerry

 

Baah humbug. There is no "win" - I've been trying to get you to
actually explain your position and support it with evidence so we can
have a rational discourse (and whether you believe it or not I was
trying very hard to give your position the benefit of the doubt).
Given you've not actually done so I would suggest if anything we have
both lost.

JL

 

I've explained my position. There are numerous economists who hold
similar positions. Google it, boyo... Maybe they could give you the
evidence and rational discourse you so crave.

I have never been accused of, or found guilty of, the crime of
rational discourse. May I remind you of this country's defamation
laws? If you presist in slandering my reputation in this way, you
shall hear from my lawyers.

You think I'm on the wrong track, I think I'm on the right track. You
are a capitalist pig and I am socialist scum. Nothing will ever
change any of that. Learn to live with it. Come the revolution, we
may meet again. Get your affairs in order.

Get your humour meter fixed!

Onya bike...

Gerry

 

Man, how confusing, Doug thinks I'm a left wing socialist, and you
think I'm a right wing capitalist pig (isn't it normally pig dog ?).

I guess that means I probably am in the political centre as I always
suspected

JL

 

Shit, I meant 75K USD I'd pay 250 or even maybe 450 and that's USD whatever
that is in AUD

Capt A. L.

 

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There is no song that reads the majority or even a significant minority will
pay considerably more for a locally produced product of equal or lesser
quality given the opportunity. In a Democracy the tariff imposing Gov.
would be short lived. In a Dictatorship well anything goes, good or bad.
If you let the people decide the taffies are out. If you go down the
Dictatorship route all's fine when he or she is a good guy but heaven help
us when their kids take over.

Democracy is a lousy form of Gov. But so far it's the best on offer.

Capt. A. L.

 

It's a capitalist plot I tell you.

Tiptoe through the tulips?

Theo

 

OK if that is first prize, what is second prize?

regards,
CrazyCam (who secretly agrees with _some_ of you ideas, but has
decided, at this stage of the game, to not give a ****.)

 

Or perhaps, shows aus.moto as a very broad church!

regards,
CrazyCam