Cornering...

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Cab, Jun 10, 2004.

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    Porl Guest

    It's ok. I never made it to your place.
     
    Porl, Jun 10, 2004
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    Porl Guest

    No, I have a cough and it's getting worse. Will you run my bike in for me?
     
    Porl, Jun 10, 2004
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    platypus Guest

    ....and then maybe a gear or two lower still. Pick a corner, any corner,
    preferably one you find challenging. Mentally note what gear you were in
    *on entry* (you may need to count up and down the box). Go back and try
    again, but one gear lower on entry. Try this a few times to get used to it.
    Better? Try again another gear lower.

    Don't try this if you're just getting back onto the bike after a fortnight
    in the sun. Also, go for a bit of a hoon beforehand, to get the bike and
    *yourself* warmed up a bit. If you're feeling a bit out-of-sorts, clumsy,
    that sort of thing, scrub the mission and go to the pub. This isn't because
    you'll crash, it's because you won't benefit, and you'll come away feeling
    even more negative about corners.
     
    platypus, Jun 10, 2004
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  4. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    Shy knees?

    --

    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jun 10, 2004
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    Lozzo Guest

    Sorby says...
    I learnt by falling off lots when I was young. Keith Code wasn't there
    to laugh at me, luckily for him.
     
    Lozzo, Jun 10, 2004
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    Sorby Guest

    I wish I'd learned how to ride by falling off a lot and hurting myself.

    I feel a bit of a fraud having done it my way.
    Nah. Code would have said, in his Californian drawl...

    "How do you feel about falling off? What can you do to fall off better next
    time? Can you break down the falling off into smaller steps so you can
    improve each step in isolation? Great, that'll be £395 thanks, dude"
     
    Sorby, Jun 10, 2004
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    Molly Guest

    A bit of a bimble sounds good to me.
     
    Molly, Jun 10, 2004
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    Lozzo Guest

    Sorby says...
    Which would have been exactly why I would have punched his stupid merkin
    lights out, had it have happened.
     
    Lozzo, Jun 11, 2004
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    Alex Ferrier Guest

    <fx:taps ginge on shoulder and points at JC>

    --
    Alex
    BMW R1150GS
    DIAABTCOD#3 MSWF#4 UKRMFBC#6 Ibw#35 BOB#8
    http://www.team-ukrm.co.uk
    Windy's "little soldier"
     
    Alex Ferrier, Jun 11, 2004
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    Cab Guest

    Paul Corfield bored us all completely to death with wittery prose along
    the lines of:
    Huh? Wotcha talking about?

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    Cab :^) - almost as fast as Ginge.
    GSX 1400 - 'Tarts Handbag' (tm) Bike, dead 550/4 Rat
    UKRMMA#10 (KoTL), IbW#015, Bob#4, POTM#3

    P.S. Remove your_head from the cab. ICQ: 83023471
     
    Cab, Jun 11, 2004
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    Cab Guest

    The Older Gentleman bored us all completely to death with wittery prose
    along the lines of:
    It's probably down to this, to a large extent.
    It's always nice to learn from others. Although I do class myself as a
    fairly competent rider, I know that there are always areas that I can
    improve on.
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    Cab :^) - almost as fast as Ginge.
    GSX 1400 - 'Tarts Handbag' (tm) Bike, dead 550/4 Rat
    UKRMMA#10 (KoTL), IbW#015, Bob#4, POTM#3

    P.S. Remove your_head from the cab. ICQ: 83023471
     
    Cab, Jun 11, 2004
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    Eiron Guest

    Coming up to a corner last night, braking too late,
    thought I wouldn't make it, tipped it in anyway and
    got round ok.
    At least I remembered to keep the inside pedal up...
    ....oops, wrong newsgroup. :)
     
    Eiron, Jun 11, 2004
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    Cab Guest

    Porl bored us all completely to death with wittery prose along the
    lines of:
    What's this then? Pick-on-Cab day?

    --
    Cab :^) - almost as fast as Ginge.
    GSX 1400 - 'Tarts Handbag' (tm) Bike, dead 550/4 Rat
    UKRMMA#10 (KoTL), IbW#015, Bob#4, POTM#3

    P.S. Remove your_head from the cab. ICQ: 83023471
     
    Cab, Jun 11, 2004
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    Ace Guest

    Have you ever ridden a GSX1400? The FJ is probably significantly
    lighter and certainly much more sporty handling. And has 20bhp more to
    play with too.
     
    Ace, Jun 11, 2004
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    Champ Guest

    Japa-knees
     
    Champ, Jun 11, 2004
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    Ace Guest

    Only very slowly.
     
    Ace, Jun 11, 2004
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    flash@work Guest

    read an article about this in Bike a while back. Interesting bit was a
    picture of John Renoylds, leant over very far on a right hander, knee on the
    deck and removing his visor tear off. How is he countersteering?
     
    flash@work, Jun 11, 2004
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    Ace Guest

    Yupp, I'd go along with this too, BUT, there have been times, like
    after a 6 year layoff, when I've had to go through the re-learning
    process, at which point all of this analysing and understanding what's
    going on comes to the fore.

    Similarly, moving up to the Gixxer last year I had to break down my
    cornering technique somewhat, tending, as I was, to be going in far
    too fast. Things like that are not always obvious and can need some
    careful analysis.

    Having said that, it's only once I've got to the point where I no
    longer have to think about it and the natural, "I just ride the
    fucker", thang is back, that I really start to feel like I'm riding
    properly.

    In short, if you're doing something wrong, you need to understand it,
    if not, you don't.
     
    Ace, Jun 11, 2004
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    Sorby Guest

    One doesn't have to countersteer through the whole bend.
    One countersteers to *initiate* the turn, to get the bike leant over.
    The bike's geometry, tyre profile & road camber take over from there.
    The throttle position dictates whether the bike leans over more, sits up or
    just stays where it is.
     
    Sorby, Jun 11, 2004
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    Ace Guest

    Cock-knees
     
    Ace, Jun 11, 2004
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