Cornering...

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Cab, Jun 10, 2004.

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    Ace Guest

    It's not just a question of 'wallowing'. Certainly, if it doesn't
    remain stable front to back (which is what I'd take 'wallowing' to
    mean) when you're cornering it's going to be very difficult to get
    confident with it - this behaviour can often be dialled out with
    suspension adjustments, or failing that by using a bit more throttle
    mid-bend.

    But I was referring to it's natural desire to keep going in a straight
    line, and how much manual effort is required to divert it from that
    course.
    No idea mate. BT020's are normally a pretty good all-rounder -
    replacing them with something with a more triangular section would
    serve to encourage quicker cornering at the expense of straight-line
    stability, so I'd be loathe to veer too far from manufacturer's
    guidelines, IIWY.
    Yes, but. We're waiting on all our terracing being re-done - ATM the
    garden and pool surround is still a bit building-site like and we'd
    prefer to wait until ot's a bit more sorted.

    I had been thinking late July/early August might fit in with other
    folks' schedules, but of course you don't need to wait for a
    full-blown fest to pop down for a weekend.
    Fancy a 400/4? Oh no, Blaney's put his name down for that, plus it's
    still on UK plates and not insured.
     
    Ace, Jun 10, 2004
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    Cab Guest

    Sorby bored us all completely to death with wittery prose along the
    lines of:
    Nice ta. 5 is going to be a bit of a bugger though. Already to go round
    corners on my bike, you need arms of steel.

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    Cab :^) - Ormiga Atomica
    GSX 1400 - 'Tarts Handbag' (tm) Bike, dead 550/4 Rat
    UKRMMA#10 (KoTL), IbW#015, Bob#4, POTM#3

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    Cab, Jun 10, 2004
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    Ginge Guest

    Yay.

    Now I'm fastest!
     
    Ginge, Jun 10, 2004
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    Champ Guest

    They're oriental?
     
    Champ, Jun 10, 2004
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    dwb Guest

    Visit and find out...
     
    dwb, Jun 10, 2004
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    Cab Guest

    Ace bored us all completely to death with wittery prose along the lines
    of:
    Okay, bad choice of word then. She's not the easiest of bikes to throw
    into corners.
    Well the bikes going into the shop this w/e and will be staying there
    for the week, due to business commitments, so I'll ask then. As I said,
    I like BT020's and IME, they've been by far the best tyres I've ever
    ridden on. I'll see what the shop suggests.
    Ta, I'll see what I can arrange.
    I thought about it, but I though it'd be such a fsckin' pain to get it
    registered here, that I thought it wasn't worth it.

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    Cab :^) - Ormiga Atomica
    GSX 1400 - 'Tarts Handbag' (tm) Bike, dead 550/4 Rat
    UKRMMA#10 (KoTL), IbW#015, Bob#4, POTM#3

    P.S. Remove your_head from the cab. ICQ: 83023471
     
    Cab, Jun 10, 2004
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    Sorby Guest

    Then I would suggest that either you're doing something badly wrong or
    there's a problem with your bike!!

    Countersteering gets harder the faster you're going.
    You're talking about slower, tighter bends so I wouldn't expect you to be
    finding it hard to countersteer at these slower speeds.

    I suspect it feels like your bike is hard to turn because you are too tense
    and/or 'confusing' the bike by not giving it positive instructions (via the
    bars etc).

    If you rely on pushing the one bar *and* pulling the other you then if the
    push & pull forces are equal then there will be some resistance.

    Also, if you are supporting your upper body weight with your arms then this
    can translate into unwanted steering input that can conflict with the
    desired steering input. Try taking your weight more via your gut on the
    tank, your arse on the seat and outside foot on the (obviously) outer
    footpeg.

    Keep your upper body relaxed and make one decisive, positive steering input
    per corner - following quickly by smooth but positive acceleration.
     
    Sorby, Jun 10, 2004
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    dwb Guest

    Summary : "just f*cking ride the thing".
     
    dwb, Jun 10, 2004
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    That's because you've both got silly, big, heavy, underpowered heaps
    of twin-shocked shit, you pair of cunts.
     
    Ben Blaney, Jun 10, 2004
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    Cab Guest

    Sorby bored us all completely to death with wittery prose along the
    lines of:
    Heh, I'll find the reviews in Bike, but they did say that the GSX14 is
    one of those bikes that does need a bit of work to get into corners.
    This is another possible cause. Maybe I'm pushing the bike into the
    corner too fast. It seems to simple as a mistake though.
    Possible too.
    Not properly countersteering then? But can one countersteer into a
    sharp bend?
    Will try.
    And this too.

    Thanks for the useful info. Now I'll try to put it into practice.

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    Cab :^) - Ormiga Atomica
    GSX 1400 - 'Tarts Handbag' (tm) Bike, dead 550/4 Rat
    UKRMMA#10 (KoTL), IbW#015, Bob#4, POTM#3

    P.S. Remove your_head from the cab. ICQ: 83023471
     
    Cab, Jun 10, 2004
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    Ginge Guest

    Hold on a second. You're a pedestrian, a car driver, and a number on a
    ducati waiting list. On that basis alone your critisism of our
    motorcycles is laughable.

    Still, I'm sure you look really cool making brum brum noises on the
    tourist camel ride.
     
    Ginge, Jun 10, 2004
    #51
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    Cab Guest

    Ben Blaney bored us all completely to death with wittery prose along
    the lines of:
    <G> FOYRNB. I like my bike.

    BTW, is a trip to Jordan too far for you, sometime next week?

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    Cab :^) - Ormiga Atomica
    GSX 1400 - 'Tarts Handbag' (tm) Bike, dead 550/4 Rat
    UKRMMA#10 (KoTL), IbW#015, Bob#4, POTM#3

    P.S. Remove your_head from the cab. ICQ: 83023471
     
    Cab, Jun 10, 2004
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    Actually, I still own two motorbikes and one out on a hire agreement,
    and there's some other "bits" and some promises. As well as the Duke.

    ****. Soon I'll own more bikes than I did six months ago.
    Is that a bite?
    <g>
     
    Ben Blaney, Jun 10, 2004
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    It's not too far, but I am too busy, unfortunately.
     
    Ben Blaney, Jun 10, 2004
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    Ginge Guest

    Well done.
    I'd not go that far, I fully accept my bike is a heavy, twin shocked
    monstrosity, it adds to the fun of riding the thing.
     
    Ginge, Jun 10, 2004
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    flash@work Guest

    can.
     
    flash@work, Jun 10, 2004
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    Cab Guest

    Ben Blaney bored us all completely to death with wittery prose along
    the lines of:
    Shame. Sorry about the short notice. I only found out this morning.

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    Cab :^) - Ormiga Atomica
    GSX 1400 - 'Tarts Handbag' (tm) Bike, dead 550/4 Rat
    UKRMMA#10 (KoTL), IbW#015, Bob#4, POTM#3

    P.S. Remove your_head from the cab. ICQ: 83023471
     
    Cab, Jun 10, 2004
    #57
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    Guest Guest

    How do shafties do it, then ..?
     
    Guest, Jun 10, 2004
    #58
  19. In a series of very small straights, like an old
    thruppenny piece.
     
    Steve Brassett, Jun 10, 2004
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    Guest Guest

    I think it was on here that I got that advice. So it must be true.

    Anyway, I'm off home.
     
    Guest, Jun 10, 2004
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