Cornering

The more I understand the more I realise how much more there is to
understand and while I'm realising that I've forgotten what I understood in
the first place.

 

Don't get all centrifugey ffs.

 

This is the path to true enlightenment. You are becoming truely
wisened.

 

Well... It get's one ones tit's all this 'Will the girls like this,
will the girls like that, is it too big, is it too small'.

 

Oi! Captain Apostrophe! No!

 

I' ha'ven't us'd any for a b'it and was' gettin'g close to bur'sting'
if I didn't...

<note to self: fucking read what you type you silly ****>

 

Exactly, the harder you are leaned over and the harder on the gas, the
more you are 'lifting' the front wheel into the corner. Until the back
gives way of course.

 

You loved it you big girl... Laying in your hospital bed, refusing to
get up in case the nurses stopped giving you bed baths.

 

If you choose to look at the riders arse instead of the
headstock, it becomes "lighter" during braking and to
successfully change lean angle the rear of the bike needs to
travel the same way as the front end. The total weight of
the bike is constant (on flat road, no cornering)

Another objection is that while weight is indeed transferred
forward, almost no mass is. So there is no more effort
needed to lift even the front end.

Without any real knowledge, I would guess that the main
factor counteracting a quick change of lean is the rotational
inertia of the bike and rider.

 

<snip>

It is fairly simple to explain if you use the front brake. We all know that
bikes have a more or less marked tendency to reduce lean if the front
brake is applied during cornering.
The reason is that when leant over, the brake force is no longer centred
in the forks. Instead it will try to twist the front wheel inwards, counter-
steering the bike towards the outside of the corner.
So, if you use the front brakes during the initiation of the turn it will
fight
you and you will need more force to get the same rate of lean as when
not on the front anchors.
Both you and the brake force induced steering will "benefit" from the
steeper steering geometry.

Why, or indeed if, it is harder to initiate turning while gently
decelerating without using the front brakes is a mystery to me. All
I know is that it feels better to me to do it the old fashioned way
with braking and leaning separated. But then, I'm crap at cornering
and dead slow.

 

I do miss the drugs a bit...

 

I expect they miss you too.

 

???????????????????????

C'mon you cunts, explain: what losses are involved when converting
linear momentum into angular momentum.

Hint: Apart from transferring some energy into heating the tyres, I
genuinely don't know.

 

The quote I remember came from Bike Feb 2000 'Bending the rules': "if
you're on the throttle... you'll never lose the front before the
rear."

So it must be some comfort to know you crashed whilst saving the
front.

 

What do you want to talk about then - data recovery, which saucepan,
sex with gnomes - what?

 

Gustave-Gaspard Coriolis: Shafties can't wheelie or countersteer.

 

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the

Don't forget all that heat in the air.

--

Dave

GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10

 

Heaven forbid we actually talk about bikes in here instead of all the other
fascinating stuff that goes on....

 

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the

What, Hovis? Or buggering dogs?

--

Dave

GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10

 

That's can't be right. That would make auvache the wisest person
here.