Converting power to BHP

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by BGN, May 5, 2005.

  1. BGN

    BGN Guest

    Hello dears.

    As I've only got 22 months of Motorcycle Shopping left I was just
    having a browse to see what's on offer in the "tall bike" department
    and I've noticed that some manufacturers unfortunatly do not list the
    power of a bike in a form that I can easily recognise.

    For example, the Suzuki V-Strom DL1000
    <http://www.suzuki-gb.co.uk/techspecs.asp?id=26&l=> lists the power
    as:

    98 PS (72.0 Kw) @ 7,600 rpm

    And by using a conversion utility I get 72 kilowatt worked out as
    96.5535 horsepower. On a modern motorcycle, will the BHP be far less
    than the HP?

    If I'm not dead/abducted by aliens/etc by the time my licence ticks
    over I'll be having a few test rides of the various beasties around
    that tickle my fancy. I'm not looking for something that's terribly
    sporty (but I do generally go at the highest resonable speed a machine
    will let me on motorways and if this is only 120 then I'm not all that
    bothered) but I'm looking for something large to sit on* and the only
    things that look practical for me so far are the BMW GS Adventure
    (Perhaps a bit overkill as I'll only be using it for the road) and the
    V-Strom DL1000 - Apart from buying a Goldwing (Lovely but I wouldn't
    have anywhere to put it) have I missed any obviously large machines?

    *<sigh>
     
    BGN, May 5, 2005
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  2. In uk.rec.motorcycles, BGN amazed us all with this pearl of wisdom:
    It's about 98 BHP. I had a converter that sweller kindly posted a link
    to but I've lost it.

    Try Google.
     
    Whinging Courier, May 5, 2005
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  3. BGN

    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    PS is pfederstarke or something similar which is german for metric
    horsepower.

    You divide PS by 1.0something or other to convert them.
    It's near enough that most people don;t worry though


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    Dr Zoidberg, May 5, 2005
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  4. In uk.rec.motorcycles, Whinging Courier amazed us all with this pearl of
    wisdom:
    Found it.

    http://www.joshmadison.com/software/convert/
     
    Whinging Courier, May 5, 2005
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  5. BGN

    wessie Guest

    BGN emerged from their own little world to say

    1 BHP (SAE) = *1.01387 BHP (PS) = 0.7457 KW = 33,000 lbs/ft/min

    So, basically the PS figure approximates to the SAE bhp figures we are used
    to. When comparing relative power outputs of wheezy boxers like mine to
    more sprightly bikes like the Vstrom/Tiger/Caponord anyway.

    I might be off to France next month. If I decide to use a Kent ferry you
    are welcome to a CIHAGM on the GS. Although I favour the Pompey/Poole
    ferries as they are a lot closer than Dover. The journey to them is much
    more pleasant too. Depends on the price differential to a certain extent.
     
    wessie, May 5, 2005
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  6. BGN

    SteveH Guest

    'Lots'

    Speedferries are 78 quid return, Poole - Cherbourg comes in at £226 for
    a 5 day return in July.

    However, if you factor in less time and mileage on the road in the UK, I
    still reckon it's worth it. Especially as the Poole crossing can be done
    overnight.
     
    SteveH, May 5, 2005
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  7. BGN

    BGN Guest

    BGN, May 5, 2005
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  8. BGN

    wessie Guest

    SteveH emerged from their own little world to say
    I got a BF quote for next month - daytime Fastferry both ways - £136
    from www.ferries.co.uk

    Speedferries are £58 for 20-30 June

    I haven't looked at the other western route options. There's sure to be
    some sort of deal going to bring that price down a bit.

    I quite fancy doing what Rufus did. Travel down the west of France and
    travel across the Auvergne towards Lyon/Grenoble. I'd take a bit longer
    than 1 day in each direction though.

    Therefore, a western route, even 50 quid more is going to be more
    attractive.
     
    wessie, May 5, 2005
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  9. BGN

    Nick Guest

    Hi,

    Saw you were using the V-strom as "an example" and wondered if you were
    considering it
    as a possible purchase ?

    If so, I have had one for a year and 10,000 miles, done a bit on the
    continent,
    doing a 600 mile day tomorrow (Land's End and back) and would be
    happy to pass on any comments etc.....

    Nick
    DL-1000
     
    Nick, May 5, 2005
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  10. BGN

    Krusty Guest

    Plenty. Start by having a look at the Tiger - the 2006 model's being
    released early as they've sold out of '05s.
     
    Krusty, May 5, 2005
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  11. BGN

    Ovenpaa Guest

    Sometime around Thu, 05 May 2005 20:21:03 +0100, BGN babbled on about:
    The Adventure sure is tall, you should have said at the BOSM, I was so
    hung over on the Sunday I would have gladly given it to anyone who asked
    just to evade piloting it. One of the downsides is it is quite heavy when
    full of fuel and luggage, however it has a range of 300 miles + and is
    very agile once moving and equally at home on motorways or twisty country
    lanes. The engine feels quite agricultural but it seems to go well now
    I have slung the CAT (prolly still less than 90 BHP even now) and it
    sounds a bit better as well. All in all a good machine and it gets me to
    work quicker than my T595 did, despite its filtering limitations.

    Off road it is kind of OK in alardy way however important things to
    remember are Tourances are shite on wet grass and the banging sound from
    the back may well be a laptop you forgot about in one of the panniers.

    Oh, they rust like **** as well, mine has 2k miles on it and has more rust
    on it that the Daytona has with 45k
     
    Ovenpaa, May 5, 2005
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  12. BGN

    WavyDavy Guest

    Ignoring the difference between PS and BHP, do you think you could really
    tell the difference? Honestly? If it was within, say, 10%?

    I probably couldn't.

    See which bikes you like the look of.

    Then test ride all of them.

    Then buy the one in the nicest colour/with the best 'style' [1]

    Works for me.

    Dave

    [1] I bought my GSXR purely on the grounds that it was bigger than a 600,
    looked nice and had a nice 'R' logo stamped on the inside of the swingarm
    where no-one would ever see it unless they looked hard... Best bike I've
    ever had. But utterly impractical and very uncomfortable on long
    journeys... :((
     
    WavyDavy, May 5, 2005
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  13. BGN

    BGN Guest

    Thanks for that.
    Let me know if you decide to pop down. I would be most interested in
    having a go on your machine.
     
    BGN, May 6, 2005
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  14. BGN

    BGN Guest

    It's on my list - not that I've discounted any bikes in any catagory,
    but a taller bike is something that I will be looking at.
    Thanks. My main question is: Will I fit on it?

    Great name, btw.
     
    BGN, May 6, 2005
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  15. BGN

    BGN Guest

    Ooh, 860mm seat height.
     
    BGN, May 6, 2005
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  16. BGN

    BGN Guest

    That's okay. I was eyeing it up to see what it was like, I'll see if
    I can grab a seat on one next time one comes near me.

    The only reason I'm considering a BMW (I wouldn't normally look at a
    BMW for even a car) is their fantastic attitude towards adventure.
    Whenever I look at a GS Adventure I'm brought back to the book & TV
    series of the Long Way Round. Those bikes took SO much shit and were
    still working after being welded back together after a 20,000 mile
    journey.

    And KTM's "We won't give you our bikes because you might fail on your
    adventure" vs BMW's "Part of adventure is trying - if you fail then
    that's just part of the adventure, but you've got to try." Nice way
    of thinking about the world.

    Nice bit of marketing there, even if BMW didn't intend it to be.
    I've heard people say the engine feels agricultural, but I've no idea
    what that really means. I've heard the engines, and they sound quite
    chunky, but they are built to last.
    I'm not planning on doing any off roading (not any intentional off
    roading...)
    Bit of a bugger really :(
     
    BGN, May 6, 2005
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  17. BGN

    BGN Guest

    No, which is why I asked later in the post if there was any real
    difference between the two figures.
    I'd probably end up with the most impractical beastie in the world :)
    Oh, motorcycles are lovely, aren't they?
     
    BGN, May 6, 2005
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    Big Tony Guest

    If you are going to buy a GS Adventure try to get a twin spark (2003 MY
    onwards) they are less agricultural than previous models and IMHO a very
    good bike. Before I moved to distant shores I owned one and would buy
    another without hesitation.
     
    Big Tony, May 6, 2005
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  19. BGN

    BGN Guest

    Thanks for that. How big is Big Tony?

    I'm 6'6" and could do with losing 3st.
     
    BGN, May 6, 2005
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  20. BGN

    Big Tony Guest

    Ha.

    I'm a mere 6'5" but probably could do with loosing about a Lozzo.
     
    Big Tony, May 6, 2005
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