Continued CB750 questions

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by Sergeant Tibbs, Jun 16, 2007.

  1. Gentlemen (and ladies),

    I noticed a little while ago that when the motorcycle is tipped more
    than 20 degrees or so, there's a clacking noise I can feel in the base
    of the engine. I didn't notice since the motorcycle was, until now, on
    its center stand.

    Googling seems to tell me it's a cam chain, and that this can be
    resolved by adjusting the tensioner.

    Is this correct? If so, would adjusting the tensioner be acceptable on
    a '75 model? Could this be a contributing factor to the idling issues
    mentioned previously?

    In a worst-case scenario can I replace the chain without first removing
    the engine? The service manual says no, anonymous Internet posters say yes.

    If not, what else might cause this sort of noise, and what's a sensible
    fix for a guy who's too broke to pay for professional service of any kind?

    As always, thanks to everyone for their help, especially since said help
    has saved me quite a bit of money so far.

    Sergeant Tibbs
     
    Sergeant Tibbs, Jun 16, 2007
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  2. More likely to be the primary chains, actually. The CB750 has two, both
    conventional roller chains, and they tend to clatter at idle, especially
    once a bit worn. The noise is harmless. If they clatter at all revs,
    then they're shot.
    See above. And the primary chains aren't adjustable anyway. Camchain:
    set engine to TDC on (IIRC) the No.1 and No.4 cylinders, undo locknut,
    loosen tensioner bolt, retighten tensioner bolt (carefully! It strips
    easily), retighten locknut (equally carefully).
    No. A slack camchain can, though.
    Camchain: yes, it *is* possible using a soft link attached to the old
    camchain, but the problem is that you can't even get the rocker cover
    off the SOHC CB750 without removing the engine. If you remove the engine
    mounts etc to drop the engine down in the frame fractionally, I think
    there's clearance. But the noise, like I said, probably isn't the
    camchain anyway.
    Ignore it and ride it till something breaks.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 16, 2007
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  3. Sergeant Tibbs
     
    Sergeant Tibbs, Jun 16, 2007
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  4. Apologies for the empty post! The real one's below.
    Would the primary chains make a randomly-occurring clack-tap noise?
    There's no real pattern but it's more like
    taptaptap------tap---tap-taptap---tap-... and so forth.

    If it's the primary chain, how intelligent would I be if I were to find
    a same-width chain with a master link and then knock it down to length
    so I didn't have to take the engine apart to replace it? Would the
    speed and torque placed on the chain wreck it?


    Heh, that's the method my parents used. I remember a lot of wailing and
    gnashing of teeth whenever something on the vehicles died.

    Sergeant Tibbs
     
    Sergeant Tibbs, Jun 16, 2007
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  5. See above
    You don't understand. The primary chains run from the middle of the
    crank. There is no way to replace tham apart from ripping down the
    engine.

    You *might* be able to access them through the sump, but using a master
    link on a primary chain probably isn't a good idea.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 17, 2007
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