Continental speeders beware

You could be right, I recall my French colleagues bitterly complaining about it
this year, just before the ski holidays.

I know that plod in Spain can chase into France and vv. Just a quick phone call
to approve the chase is needed.

This is where data laws in different Euro countries is great. They haven't come
to any agreement for years. The different points systems (or lack of) in
different countries doesn't help either.

 

While I understand what you're getting at, it strikes me as pretty
obvious that if they're signposted they're only expecting people to slow
down for the camera, whereas if they're hidden they're expecting people
to assume they might be anywhere and therefore slow down everywhere just
in case.

 

Heh. None in '87' AFAIK, despite the great roads round 'the chateau'.
Quite a few floral tributes to be seen though.
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I quite like that, in the right place. Certainly works on the M4 around
Newport now they have average speed cameras and a 50 limit. There seem to
be fewer accidents and the flow of traffic is better. Of course, the 50
limit still exists at off peak times which is would be a PITA if I used the
M4 outside commuting times in the car.

 

I think it was RACC (Catalan Automobile Club) who made a map of Spain
comparing roads with blackspots and roads with speed cameras. "Uncorrelated"
sprang to mind.

Living verboten.

 

Or flowers and crosses in Spain.

 

Same for Barcelona with an 80 (Km/h) speed limit thanks to the self-called
eco-stalinist (sorry, eco-socialist) in the regional government. Pah, they
will be kicked in the ass in november elections and guess what people
expects to go away first.

 

I did google and read the article on wikepedia. I also understood it.

I don't agree. Although I do agree that it's sometimes difficult to define
one accurately.

I do agree that in a lot of cases cameras are placed at random. It's especially
the case in France. Furthermore I don't suggest for one minute that a camera
should be stuck up as soon as an accident occurs. However there are areas in
which accidents do occur. My arguement was simply that once cameras reduce
accidents in these areas, they should be moved elsewhere.

"failure to take into account the effects of regression to the mean results in
the beneficial effects being overstated. It is thus claimed that some of the
money currently spent on traffic cameras could be more productively directed
elsewhere."

I totally agree with the last sentence.

 

There's a stretch of road from Bordeaux towards Pau, a national IIRC. Most of
it is straight and yet, there are around 50 cardboard cutouts in a 30-40km
stretch. Some of the areas where the cutouts are situated are quite surprising.

 

Doesn't work though, does it? People slam on their anchors just as they
see them. I'm a bit cynical. I believe if they're hidden, they're there to make
money.

 

About 10 years ago when they built the Batheaston bypass, they installed
a speed camera on it. 50 mph on dual carriageway with no exits for half
a mile. It's was new road so couldn't have been an accident black spot,
yet the camera is still there. Safety my arse.

 

It's terrible when that happens. Those inconsiderate motorists driving
into your plate and snapping it off. Quite common I hear. Carefour's car
park is full of bad drivers and the parking challenged. They never have
the decency to leave a note either.

 

<chortle>

 

Bugger, I meant areas considered to be blackspots where it's been proven that
it's a blackspot.

 

At the bottom of long hills seems to be a prime favourite.

 

I've been flashed a couple of times, but I heard that if the fine is less
than Euro 70 they don't bother following it up (bless 'em).
There's a spot by Montelimar heading north, at the bottom of a long descent,
no camera but often Gendarme with bins, a bit further up I've often seen on
the overhead matrix a registration followed by something to the effect of
"too fast".

 

More than cynical. Paranoid.

 

ogden wibbled forthrightly:

Not sure I'm paranoid about them. Only when I'm not sure if I've been
flashed or not, mind.

 

What I can't understand is why people let them survive. I've lived near two
and did for them both. It isn't exactly difficult and only takes a few
seconds.

Or perhaps most of the sheeple actually approve of them, a theory which
would be supported by the multitudes who have reduced effective A road
speeds to 50 or 45 mph.

 

Are you suggesting/admitting vandalising and/or destroying them?

Perhaps most people, whilst upset about the erosion of civil liberties,
aren't willing to go as far as what you're insinuating.