Concorde RIP

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Mick Whittingham, Oct 24, 2003.

  1. When the Yanks were haggling about landing permission at JFK there was a
    televised open forum with all the major players invited plus a few
    extra.

    The Yanks had already had the windows reduced in size or they wouldn't
    certify it.

    They wouldn't let it fly supersonic in the super sonic corridor across
    the states.

    They would only let it use JFK if the ticket cost was twice that of the
    most expensive American carriers first class ticket cost.

    etc etc etc.

    Freddy Laker stood up and declared to the meeting that his engineering
    staff had come up with a low cost solution to over coming the sonic boom
    and the noise of the engines in afterburner take off. This would meet
    all of the requirements of the FAA and take away any objection to
    Concorde landing at JFK.

    Lots of noise, puzzled looks, etc and the head of the FAA stood up and
    asked how he proposed to do that when the design engineers couldn't.

    It's simple said Freddy. You paint the word BOEING on each side.

    Meeting then broke down in a mixture of applause, the shaking of heads
    and most of the Yanks walking out.
     
    Mick Whittingham, Oct 24, 2003
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  2. Des, you have "NO F*CKING IDEA"..

    Mutter mutter mutter....................
     
    Mick Whittingham, Oct 24, 2003
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  3. Mick Whittingham

    Mike Buckley Guest

    The landings are supposed to be on TV later (anybody know what time?).
    Though I'll probably be at work - anybody know if there are plans for
    repeats later on?
     
    Mike Buckley, Oct 24, 2003
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  4. Mick Whittingham

    Slider Guest

    [snip]
    [snip typical anti-foreign-competition]
    If it's even half true, that's absolutely brilliant!
     
    Slider, Oct 24, 2003
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  5. Mick Whittingham

    M J Carley Guest

    The reason Concorde was a failure (besides the massive cost overruns)
    was that it couldn't fly most routes. It barely managed London/Paris
    to New York/Washington and couldn't fly from Frankfurt to the US. What
    airline in its right mind was going to buy the thing?

    It's a nice aeroplane but it's useless and would never have gone into
    service if it had had to carry its full costs.
     
    M J Carley, Oct 24, 2003
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  6. Oh it's true all right!
     
    Mick Whittingham, Oct 24, 2003
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  7. Mick Whittingham

    Ginge Guest

    It's Friday, FFS why aren't you working from home? :eek:)
     
    Ginge, Oct 24, 2003
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  8. Mick Whittingham

    ogden Guest

    There's a special on BBC2 and News24 at 3.30, with the planes expected to
    land around 4pm. That said, the Edinburgh flight was meant to take off at
    10am and it didn't get airborne til about 10.30 so what time things will
    actually happen is anyone's guess.

    If they come down before 4 I'll be pissed off cos I'll still be on the M4.
     
    ogden, Oct 24, 2003
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  9. Mick Whittingham

    Mike Buckley Guest

    You're forgetting who my manager is.

    Shove a tape in for us willya?
     
    Mike Buckley, Oct 24, 2003
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  10. Mick Whittingham

    ferret Guest

    <nods>

    Bye bye, Speedbird. :eek:(
     
    ferret, Oct 24, 2003
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  11. Mick Whittingham

    CT Guest


    All three[1] should arrive at around 4pm.
    I suspect Sky News will show it until you'll actually get sick of
    seeing it :eek:)

    [1] One from New York, one from Cardiff and one from Heathrow[2].
    [2] A supersonic flight over the Bay of Biscay round-trip.
     
    CT, Oct 24, 2003
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  12. Mick Whittingham

    Slider Guest

    [snip]
    The fact that it pissed fuel everywhere probably didn't help things. I
    remember being told about the time when Concorde was flown to Miami airport.
    Forgetting to tell the ground crew that they should only fill Concorde up
    just before take off, they had prepared it the night before. Come the
    morning, Concorde (and the surrounding area) was awash with fuel[1]. Choice
    words were uttered to the effect of "Never bring Concorde back here again".

    [1] It leaks quite badly you see
     
    Slider, Oct 24, 2003
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  13. Mick Whittingham

    CT Guest

    That, of course, should read Edinburgh :eek:/
     
    CT, Oct 24, 2003
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  14. BAE at it's own cost were prepared to install extra tanks to enable
    longer loiter and longer range. The British government by declaring it a
    military project forbade BAE from changing any of the design ensuring
    its marketing failure for the Frankfurt run and the airports further
    into the states.
    If BA had flown it as often as they do their 747s (as it was capable of)
    it might just have paid for itself. The enforced 'twice the cost of a US
    carriers first class fare' tag that was part of the deal to it getting
    landing permission at JFK restricted it's ticket sales for the Atlantic
    run
     
    Mick Whittingham, Oct 24, 2003
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  15. Mick Whittingham

    Ginge Guest

    Nope, it's Scotty, he's never there so how on earth can he complain!

    Due to the recabling nonsense I've not been in in 4 weeks, back on
    Monday or Tuesday though! :eek:/
    Don't see why not.
    <goes to have a look when it's on>
     
    Ginge, Oct 24, 2003
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  16. Mick Whittingham

    ogden Guest

    Presumably only while on the ground, the slack being sorted by expansion
    when in flight?

    Didn't the SR-71 do pretty much the same thing?
     
    ogden, Oct 24, 2003
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  17. Mick Whittingham

    Slider Guest

    Erm...no actually; I think it leaks worse in flight (although I may be
    wrong). They actually compensate for the predicted leakage in their initial
    fuel load.
     
    Slider, Oct 24, 2003
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  18. SR-71s do that as well. Presumably it's a expansion due to heat
    at supersonic speeds sealing things thing?
     
    William Grainger, Oct 24, 2003
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  19. Mick Whittingham

    ogden Guest

    It made a handy alarm clock at the Reading Festival each year. About 10.30am
    the thing would roar across the sky and any attempt to sleep through a
    hangover would come to an abrupt end.
     
    ogden, Oct 24, 2003
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  20. Mick Whittingham

    darsy Guest

    do you *ever* go into work? ;-)
     
    darsy, Oct 24, 2003
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