Concorde RIP

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Mick Whittingham, Oct 24, 2003.

  1. Mick Whittingham

    ogden Guest

    ogden, Oct 26, 2003
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    Wik Guest

    Heh, it was quite moving, really.

    Suze, bless her, left work early, Friday and pootled out to Heathrow,
    parked the bike round the back of the maintenance hangars and then called
    me on her mobile at 15:57 to let me at least hear the landings.
    :)

    She'd said she wasn't too bothered, initially, but afterwards, having
    (likely) had the last ever Concorde flights pass within a few yards of
    her, I think she too was a little choked.

    She then went home and taped all the various snippets of footage off the
    news, too.
    :)

    There was some poor little tacker (he can only have been five or six at
    most) in floods of tears at the spectacle.

    Bless.

    RIP Concorde.
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    Wik, Oct 26, 2003
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    I might have killfiled them for sending html email, or I might just have
    their mail filtered into a folder of mail shots that I don't much read.
    <disappointed>
     
    Ben Blaney, Oct 26, 2003
  4. I'm surprised the French haven't kept one for Presidential/Prime
    Ministerial use as it is. It would surely cut a stylish dash at all
    those summit meetings.

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    Dave

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    Grimly Curmudgeon, Oct 26, 2003
  5. Heh. I can imagine DeGaulle's reaction to being told he couldn't keep an
    example of and fly around in the most prestigious aircraft the French
    aircraft industry ever built.

    Arrogant old cunts aside, I think there's a good case to be made for
    keeping a couple on each side of the Channel for State use.

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    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
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    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Oct 26, 2003
  6. Mick Whittingham

    sweller Guest


    I wasn't complaining about the waste of money in regards to the cold war.

    Your argument depends on what you count as advances, bigger better toys
    and the cold war's your kiddie. The space program was a product of the
    cold war, as was a great deal of todays day to day items.

    The arms and related information race was the catalyst for huge advances.
    Now there is no need to beat the 'opposition' the unlimited budgets of
    the arms race are no longer there.

    To advance, in that way, now we'll have to rely on Capital. They have
    neither the money (!) or the will to spend it in the manner of
    twenty/thirty/forty years ago. They only spend to see predictable
    returns.

    For huge technological advances to be made we have to be at war. The
    'war' at the moment is on tracking people and information. Expect huge
    and insidious advances.

    Unfortunately not as sexy looking as planes, guns and space ships.
     
    sweller, Oct 26, 2003
  7. Agreed, except that the Frogs would probably **** it up *again*.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Oct 26, 2003
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    pete boyall Guest

    Naturally, I'm a man. I need my toys :)

    Not really noticable though - to accountants "progress" means
    "spending less". Can't spend much less before things stop. Or planes
    start dropping out the sky. Ooh. :-(
    Hmm. I actually doubt it to be honest. To appear knowledgable about
    building aircraft, one generally has to be able to build an aircraft.
    It soon becomes apparent if you were lying, when you stick the wings
    on upside down.

    To appear knowledgeable about information technology, it appears one
    simply has to shout loudly and use lots of acronyms. I predict lots
    of money being spent with zero advances being made.

    Which I'm actually quite happy about ...
    No, definitely not. I want a spaceship to play with :-(
     
    pete boyall, Oct 26, 2003
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    pete boyall Guest

    Well, we just make a couple of mods so our Concorder is no longer the
    same type as theirs and hence has it's own CoA type certificate :)

    Say, bolt on some bomb bays and go fly round the world. Nothing's
    gonna be able to intercept it ...
     
    pete boyall, Oct 26, 2003
  10. On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:32:16 +0000 (UTC),
    Just rename it. Drop that 'e' off the end.

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    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6? DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#16? FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Oct 26, 2003
  11. Mick Whittingham

    sweller Guest


    That's not the point I was making. There is now no need for the levels
    of military hardware as there was during the cold war. The race to
    outbid the Soviets at every turn has finished.

    Now there is a different 'enemy'; the race is to control, manipulate
    information and people. That's where the giant leaps will be made.

    Aircraft are so passé.
     
    sweller, Oct 26, 2003
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    Mark Olson Guest

    The Honda Civic/plywood references fired a neuron: the South Dakota Air
    and Space Musuem at Ellsworth AFB in Box Elder, SD has just such a B2
    replica (5/8 scale?) on display. IIRC the sign next to it mentioned
    something about Honda. There's a picture of it on the Box Elder city
    webpage here: http://www.boxelder.us/ and you can look at the Ellsworth
    AFB webpage here: http://www.ellsworth.af.mil/.

    I was filling up at a gas station right next to the base when a B1B took
    off. I could have sworn it was no more than 100 feet above my head.
    It was an impressive sight to see it climbing out of view with the rear
    end lit up like two huge blowtorches.
     
    Mark Olson, Oct 26, 2003
  13. But!
    The USAF wanted to buy hundreds of them after their first inspection and
    test flight.
    And Allegedly
    The Russians pushed their communist card carrying brothers Wilson And
    Brown to have the plane put beyond the financial practicality of being
    produced and being deployed by the RAF or heaven forbid the USAF as they
    considered it to be a destabilising factor in the arms race.

    According to a discovery program on advanced aircraft the performance
    envelope of the TSR2 has only just been pushed by modern aircraft in the
    last decade.
    Oh so true!
    But is was up and running, the first production models were cut up and
    buried with the jigs.
    I remember as an erk apprentice, very carefully trollying in a special
    mounting, head up display units to the back of an army truck to see them
    picked up by two squadies and thrown into the back.

    I'm all for bringing back hanging for politicians who for their devious
    reasons wantonly distorted the wonderful aircraft that inspirational
    design put Britain ahead of the world for a fleeting moment.
     
    Mick Whittingham, Oct 26, 2003
  14. Not distorted, DESTROYED. God knows what my PC does on its own!
     
    Mick Whittingham, Oct 26, 2003
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    pete boyall Guest

    Yeah, I take your point. I just don't feel that the people in the
    information manipulation business are as technically competent as the
    people in the military hardware business used to be. Although I think
    they've got control and manipulation of the masses down pretty well
    already ... ooh, must go, it's Celebrity Doorstep Challenge.
    :eek:(
     
    pete boyall, Oct 26, 2003
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    ogden Guest

    **** me you're slipping, Murray.

    That wasn't even cross-posted!
     
    ogden, Oct 26, 2003
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    pete boyall Guest

    But if the forces of Government were all-powerful like that there
    would be no credible political opposition and the government could do
    as it wished.

    Oh.

    I see.

    Oh dear.
     
    pete boyall, Oct 26, 2003
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    Pip Guest

    The Northrop Black Widow was featured in a cartoon in the 40's - while
    the aircraft was still on the "secret" list ...
     
    Pip, Oct 26, 2003
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    Owen Guest

    I for one will miss the roar of Speedbird One at 7pm each evening...
    *sniff*.....
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    Owen, Oct 26, 2003
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    Owen Guest

    They are watching you... you do realise this, dontcha...?
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    Owen, Oct 26, 2003
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