Compulsory insurance

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by The Older Gentleman, Feb 4, 2005.

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    porl Guest

    Cheers!
     
    porl, Feb 4, 2005
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    Chris Soanes Guest

    Coo. Link please.

    Tiff
     
    Chris Soanes, Feb 4, 2005
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    darsy Guest

    you should be honoured. Of the literally less than 10 ukrm-ers that
    know my address, you were the first to come to mind.
     
    darsy, Feb 4, 2005
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    sweller Guest

    sweller, Feb 4, 2005
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    porl Guest

    Not much of an honour bearing in mind the context and also not very accurate
    because I can't remember where you live other than somewhere north of
    Chiswick.
     
    porl, Feb 4, 2005
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    sweller Guest

    Prison hulks; especially for those who blatantly tax and sorn a vehicle.
     
    sweller, Feb 4, 2005
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    Jim Ingram Guest

    Ok how about this:

    Suppose someone owns a taxed and insured car. He goes out and buys
    another car switches his insurance to his new car and taxes it. Now
    since he's still got his old car on the road while he's trying to
    sell it, still taxed, as soon as he switched his insurance he's
    instantly liable for the £100 fine (presumably plus points) even
    though he has no intention of driving it (and he can't sorn it
    because he can't take it off the road). Thousands of law abiding
    citizens could be caught in this trap and I can't see an easy way of
    wording the legislation so that they wouldn't (how long do you give
    someone to sell the old car - a month, until the tax expires!!). If
    they were to let you keep a taxed sorned car on the road how would
    that be any different to the situation we have now.

    Jim
     
    Jim Ingram, Feb 4, 2005
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    Dan White Guest

    Heh, I loved that one. Wound some poor sap up something rotten with it, but
    he swore blind that it was absolutely true. So I asked him if dropping the
    motorway speed limit by 20mph would mean there would never ever be an
    accident again. The twat.
     
    Dan White, Feb 4, 2005
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    darsy Guest

    we had the "Confidential Telephone" back in the 70s.
     
    darsy, Feb 4, 2005
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    Champ Guest

    Mathematically not quite true[1], but I take your point

    [1] Keep reducing a number by 5% and you'll never get to zero. You
    will get to < 1, tho.
    --
    Please add "imo" to above post.
    Champ
    GSX-R 1000, GPz 750 turbo, ZX7RR Endurance Racer x 2
    GYASB#0 BotToS#2 BOTAFO(T|F)#35 WG*#1 DFV#8
    Team UKRM Racing : www.team-ukrm.com
     
    Champ, Feb 4, 2005
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  11. It does. I can see it right now on my policy.
     
    danny_deever2000, Feb 4, 2005
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    Lady Nina Guest

    Now that I see it has the SORN exemption I dont see any need to
    object.
     
    Lady Nina, Feb 4, 2005
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  13. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    drugs began to take hold. I remember saying
    something like:
    Most policies seem to not have it, though.

    --

    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Feb 4, 2005
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  14. Jim Ingram wrote
    This is probably true and I don't recall seeing sir.tony ranting about
    it and he is ukrm's resident expert on these matters.
     
    steve auvache, Feb 4, 2005
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    Jim Ingram Guest

    vehicle.

    I seem to recall the penalty for making a false SORN statement is up
    to a £1000 fine and not all magistrates or petty bureaucrats possess
    common sense. Not everyone in the UK has access to offroad parking. I
    personally don't see why someone shouldn't be allowed to keep a taxed
    car on the road while they try to find a buyer for it, having
    purchase a new car and switched their insurance policy. As it stands
    the proposed legislation would prevent that. I suppose you might
    argue that any vehicle on the road needs third party insurance but I
    doubt parked cars cause a significant number (if any) accidents.

    Jim
     
    Jim Ingram, Feb 4, 2005
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  16. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    drugs began to take hold. I remember "Andy Wegg"
    I'm wondering if it's simply the latest in a long series of measures
    from an undeclared anti-car element in the govt. Make it more difficult
    and expensive to keep cars on the road and the numbers might drop. The
    bugger is, of course, that bikes will be affected with the introduction
    of prissy little laws of this type.

    Fuckin' carrot-chewing cyclists.

    --

    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Feb 4, 2005
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    porl Guest

    Or even to make the laws so arcane that it's almost impossible not to slip
    up and "contribute" to the govt's upkeep.

    Display your insurance, MOT and tax within 3 seconds of being asked while
    standing on one leg and squinting or another arab bites the dust.
     
    porl, Feb 4, 2005
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  18. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    drugs began to take hold. I remember TOG@toil,
    Heh. You've just reminded me... I saw that airheaded bint Melinda
    Messenger on the box this morning... she made some comment about it
    being a good thing that yon woman was done for eating an apple while
    driving, for it was likely that anyone doing so would be dangerous.

    The stupid, vacuous, empty-headed tart.

    --

    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Feb 4, 2005
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  19. Grimly Curmudgeon wrote

    Yebbut there have already been a lot of benefits to the gummint from the
    stuff they have done already. Blur popped back to the country for an
    hour or two to do PM's question time the other day and he let slip that
    what they had done already was not only causing a huge increase in
    revues that couldn't really be called taxation but also a measurable
    reduction in other crime. They only have to harp on this to the
    30odd% of the population who actually bother to vote and it is gonna
    happen some more.

    Only half of them, and only in my dreams.
     
    steve auvache, Feb 4, 2005
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    sweller Guest

    It's not anti-car; more make our public services run on a shoe string and
    self financing to keep tax down/pay for the guns we need with the added
    bonus of much more accurate, accessible, population data.

    If the current trend within opposition parties and the press to bang on
    about overpaid and over pampered civil servants (the majority of whom
    aren't Sir Humphrey but clerks in the dole or DVLA offices - neither over
    paid or pampered). Expect to pay for more and more services that once
    were free as 'inefficient' public bodies attempt to balance the books.
     
    sweller, Feb 4, 2005
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