Comparitive running costs 2 v 4 ?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Harry Bloomfield, Feb 28, 2005.

  1. After serious thinking Boots Blakeley wrote :
    Hi,

    A new subject, a new thread...

    My VFR 750 does less mpg than my quite large car, costs almost twice as
    much to insure, needs much more regular services, more frequent and
    much more expensive tyres, parts are needed more often and generally
    cost more. The only thing which is cheaper, is the road fund licence.
     
    Harry Bloomfield, Feb 28, 2005
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  2. My bike does half the mileage of my van, costs twice as much to insure
    and all the stuff you mentioned up there but hell, it's worth it.
     
    Whinging Courier, Feb 28, 2005
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  3. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Harry Bloomfield
    .... and is much, much duller to drive[1].


    [1] I use the term advisedly.

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Feb 28, 2005
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  4. Harry Bloomfield

    Andy Hewitt Guest

    My FJ does about 10 mpg more than the car would for the same journey.
    OK, it needs servicing twice as often, but that's fairly irrelevant for
    me any way, as the car costs me **** all to service anyway. The FJ only
    costs about £25 for the parts from the FJ club.

    The insurance is cheaper than the car, and the tax is cheaper than the
    car.

    However, repair bills are far higher - so far this year it's had chain &
    sprockets, two rear tyres and one front, rear shock and a carb strip and
    clean.

    But then it's done three times the mileage of the car too.

    Overall there's sod all in it. The biggest benefit I get is halving the
    journey time to work.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Feb 28, 2005
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  5. Harry Bloomfield

    Molly Guest

    Insurance for my bike = 216ukp Not bad.

    We used to live in a shoebox.


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    Molly, Feb 28, 2005
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  6. So far the only parts I've needed are new plugs and filters. The rest
    has been fixed with gaffer tape and cable ties.
    Mine's about the same tbh. It's only the ncd on the bike that makes it
    that way, though.
    I go everywhere on my bike. Sometimes I *have* to drive the van because
    it'd just rot sitting there; it isn't my first thought when I have to go
    out.
    That's a good reason but (and I know this sounds like a cliché) I ride
    one because of the way I feel when I ride it and for the remaining time
    before I go out on it again.

    I was the most miserable sod I knew when I lost my licence. Having my
    bike is what keeps me sane. I know it costs stupid amounts of money to
    keep it running but the sigh of relief is worth it and when compared to
    thrills per mile, it'll beat a (ones I've driven) car hands down.

    The only downside to a bike is the freezing weather, but having said
    that, I never noticed it until I bought a four wheeler.

    I need a new pair of tyres soon but I'm not going to ruin a good set of
    tyres on this weather. I've still got a hair's breadth of tread left so
    I'll keep running it until the shadows start getting longer and there's
    a bit of warmth in the sun.
     
    Whinging Courier, Feb 28, 2005
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  7. Harry Bloomfield

    AndrewR Guest

    My bike does about 15mpg more than my car, costs half as much to insure,
    doesn't (I suspect) mind missing services as much, is a good 2 or 3 seconds
    faster to 60 and probably isn't that much worse on tyres.

    OTOH it's bog all good for getting my wife and daughter anywhere.

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    AndrewR, Feb 28, 2005
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  8. Harry Bloomfield

    Andy Hewitt Guest

    That's true, I have none on the cage, although my missus does, and the
    bike is still over £100 cheaper to insure (if I'd gone fully comp).
    I don't have the choice most of the time. It's mostly a commute for me,
    other times it's shopping trips or out with the family.
    Yes, that too, it's a great feeling when you get a clear run home and a
    dry road. Most of the time though I spend it battling the cages.
    For sure, although I have driven a few exciting cars in my time too -
    loads of Jags, sporty Jap cars, and a few chipped Cossies too.
    I can't say it bothers me all that much. The cold and wet is dealt with
    by good clothing, it's sliding around that gets tricky.
    Apart from having to scrub new rubber on wet roads covered in salt.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Mar 1, 2005
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  9. Harry Bloomfield

    Andy Hewitt Guest

    I'd put that nearer to 8-10 seconds quicker for the average modern car.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Mar 1, 2005
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  10. In uk.rec.motorcycles, Andy Hewitt wrote:

    80% of my riding is done in town. It's the dry roads when I get to go
    out that make it all worthwhile. That's just one reason I want to leave
    London and go back 'ome.
    True. I drove a whale tail Sierra Cosworth and had a bash in my mate's
    chipped up Escort Cossie, that was good, especially at night when you
    could see through the exhaust manifold :eek:)
    Yeah, all the drain covers round here don't help either.
    That's why I'm going to leave it. I don't want any new tyres to be
    square by the time the sun comes out. I might as well ruin the shagged
    out ones I've got :)
     
    Whinging Courier, Mar 1, 2005
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  11. Harry Bloomfield

    Andy Hewitt Guest

    Yes, I haven't regretted the move.
    Aye, they can get a tad hot :)
    Indeed, espcially when they 'resurface', and don't adjust the height of
    the manhole covers.
    Yup I usually try and time my tyre changes for the begging of better
    weather. However, at 200 miles per week I don't always get much choice.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Mar 1, 2005
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  12. Harry Bloomfield

    'Hog Guest

    Ferckin Pikey, buy a decent car.
    HTH

    'Hog
     
    'Hog, Mar 1, 2005
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  13. That's true. I reckon I've got 1000 miles at most before mine become
    slicks. It's a balance between slippery roads and slippery tyres.
    Irresponsible perhaps but tbh it's the thought of plod catching me with
    them rather than any safety implications.[1]

    Now would be a good time to use the van some more...

    [1] My insurance is up in April as well so I might as well get it all
    done in one hit.
     
    Whinging Courier, Mar 1, 2005
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  14. Harry Bloomfield

    Muck Guest

    I don't have a car to compare now, but. I pay £192 per year for three
    bikes. The CG125 kicks bottom in lack of running costs, but it depends
    no how low you want to go, and what you're worried about riding, and when.
     
    Muck, Mar 1, 2005
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  15. Harry Bloomfield

    darsy Guest

    My Fireblade does approx. twice as much mpg than the car, costs less to
    insure (in fact, all three bikes on my policy cost less to insure than
    the car), service intervals (in terms of mileage) aren't vastly
    different. A full set of tyres is more expensive on the car than the
    bike (300 quid -v- 200 quid).

    Having said all that, the bikes cost me more per month, because I
    hardly use the car.
     
    darsy, Mar 1, 2005
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  16. Harry Bloomfield

    flash Guest

    There's also the rider equipment costs to consider. You need quite a bit of
    kit to commute all year round and stuff like helmets, gloves and boots can
    need replacing after just a couple of years high mileage use.
     
    flash, Mar 1, 2005
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  17. Harry Bloomfield

    gazzafield Guest


    A shoebox! Now that's living. We had to grow up on a puddle. What would
    we have given for the luxury of a shoebox?
     
    gazzafield, Mar 1, 2005
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  18. Harry Bloomfield

    Preston Kemp Guest

    We used to dream of living in a puddle.
     
    Preston Kemp, Mar 1, 2005
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  19. Infinitely more, I'd say.
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    Neal Champion, Mar 1, 2005
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  20. Harry Bloomfield

    Andy Hewitt Guest

    Aye, but look at what you bought! Our Hondas have cost a couple of sets
    of brake pads in the last 6 years, and one exhaust (at trade price), and
    a set of tyres (again at trade price). The insurance on the Civic is
    £303 FC.
    I do a tad more mileage than you at the moment, although it would have
    been more had it not spent so long off the road last year. Insurance is
    about the same here, I get about 40mpg too. However, last year it cost
    me about £1000 in repairs. It's by far the most costly bike I've ever
    owned.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Mar 1, 2005
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